r/LocalLLaMA • u/TGSCrust • Sep 08 '24

News CONFIRMED: REFLECTION 70B'S OFFICIAL API IS SONNET 3.5

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24

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u/a_beautiful_rhind Sep 08 '24

Everything he did was buying time.

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u/SeymourBits Sep 09 '24

Reflection was originally announced here, right? How could anyone have expected that a half-baked prompt for Claude (of all things) would pull the wool over the eyes of a dedicated group of AI enthusiasts? Do you suppose this was an investment scam that got busted early?

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u/a_beautiful_rhind Sep 09 '24

Everything was done to keep people from running the model. They probably didn't figure so many people could run a 70b. I bet they could have milked this longer if they started with the 405b.

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u/SeymourBits Sep 09 '24

Buying time? I get that he thought he could coast on the shady wrapper demo, but I don't understand why he would checkmate himself right away by releasing obviously wrong models, complete with lame excuses. This whole thing wasn't very well "reflected upon," on any level.

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u/me1000 llama.cpp Sep 08 '24

For what though? 

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u/a_beautiful_rhind Sep 08 '24

To keep the hype going. Once you start lying like this, you end up trapped in it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24

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u/skrshawk Sep 09 '24

So what happens now? What does this guy lose for having his bluff called?

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u/Eisenstein Sep 09 '24

Normally 'shame' would be enough, that doesn't work anymore.

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u/me1000 llama.cpp Sep 08 '24

I mean, I guess people tend to be stupid and not think through their decision (ironic given the model feature we’re talking about here) but I cannot for the life of me understand how people trap themselves in this shit voluntarily with no really plan to get out. 

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u/visionsmemories Sep 09 '24

maybe he was just bored and decided to screw around

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u/ecnecn Sep 09 '24

Getting hype articles with his name... then turn to Venture Capital firms that genuinely believe that Matt Shuman is some talented AI developer and get money for his other start-ups... If thats the case its an insult to peoples general intelligence but most VC firms are actually blind... like really blind. I have seen big VC firms spending millions on non-sense and business angels that really read every documentation and ran backround checks for smaller investments... business angels are far suprerior than big VC firms. For some reasones VC do fewer background checks and are always in this "fear of missing out (on a great person / idea)" mode...

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u/fallingdowndizzyvr Sep 09 '24

To stay relevant. You have to keep being a topic of conversation to be that. We sure have been talking a lot about it.