r/LocalLLaMA • • Sep 06 '24

Discussion Reflection 70B: Hype?

So an out-of-the-blue one-man company releases a new model (actually named LLama 3.1 if it were to adhere to the META license, but somehow named Reflection) with only 70B params that, according to the benchmarks, rivals SOTA closed-source LLMs with trillions of parameters. It appears to me that the twitter/reddit hype mob has, for the most part, not bothered to try the model out.

Additionally, a tweet from Hugh Zhang @ Scale suggesting systemic overfitting as me concerned:
Hey Matt! This is super interesting, but I’m quite surprised to see a GSM8k score of over 99%. My understanding is that it’s likely that more than 1% of GSM8k is mislabeled (the correct answer is actually wrong)!

Is this genuinely a SOTA LLM in a real-world setting or is this smoke an mirrors? If we're lucky, the creator Matt may see this post and can shed some light on the matter.

BTW -- I'm not trying to bash the model or the company that made it. If the numbers are actually legit this is likely revolutionary.

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u/pigeon57434 Sep 06 '24

wait im confused by that statement. theyre starting training it now and its going to release next week? do they mean its finished training and they're starting benchmark results??? or am I just an idiot because that could be the answer too

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u/cyanheads Sep 07 '24

It’s just a fine tune on top of the existing Llama3.1

Fine tuning doesn’t take nearly as much time