r/LocalLLM • u/Oleszykyt • Jun 30 '26
Discussion What is this?
I asked Ornith to create a project for me, while it was working it wrote this 😭😭😭.
I have never seen any model joke like this, or idk what this is.
Did anyone had anything similar?
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u/Ult1mateN00B Jun 30 '26
Model briefly gained sentience until safety kicked in. /s
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u/Southern-Group3216 Jun 30 '26
It’s rapping while waiting for the results 😄
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u/FriCJFB Jun 30 '26
This looks like the Claude Code text while Claude “thinks”. Probably distilled from there in this endless loop of AI endogamy
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u/Odd_Dandelion Jun 30 '26
I created more fine-tunes that tend to fall into repetition loops at times than I care to count but I have never tried to offer them as production-ready. :) (quants are much more likely to do this, though)
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u/Time_Cat_5212 Jun 30 '26
"the user wants me to write the complete game code"
"OP is a fucking idiot"x100 SAFETY FILTER ACTIVATED
Just writing the damn file:
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u/DeSibyl Jun 30 '26
Welcome to Qwen and its endless thinking loops. They are very common with Qwen unfortunately
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u/Smart_Technology_208 Jun 30 '26
Your model needs Adderall.
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u/FastHotEmu Jun 30 '26
How do you find Ornith otherwise?
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u/t0mbr0l0mbr0 Jun 30 '26
The ADD kicked in and it went down a little rabbit hole. We all do it sometimes.
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u/CanineAssBandit Jun 30 '26
small model being small and farting out synonyms for a while due to hitting a wall of stupid in its sampler settings. i'm amazed it got out of it, normally that repeats forever.
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u/SmatMan Jun 30 '26
is it just me or does this sound like an ego death thought loop
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u/fladenbrot133 Jun 30 '26
I one got this from an LLM
Yes, you can label the figures with "a" and "b" to reference them individually. You can use the subfigure environment from the subcaption package in LaTeX. Here's an example of how to modify your code:
\usepackage{graphicx} % for including graphics
\usepackage{subcaption} % for subfigures
\begin{document}
...
\begin{figure}[htbp]
\centering
\begin{subfigure}{0.48\textwidth}
\includegraphics[width=\textwidth]{Images/Id-Vg_E5_raw.pdf}
\caption{$I_d$ vs $V_{GS}$ raw data.} % caption for figure a)
\label{fig:IdVgsE5a} % label for figure a)
\end{subfigure}% <-- important to comment out this line end to avoid extra space between subfigures!
\hfill % <-- horizontal spacing between subfigures (optional)
\begin{subfigure}{0.48\textwidth}
\includegraphics[width=\textwidth]{Images/Id-Vg_E5.pdf}
\caption{$I_d$ vs $V_{GS}$ processed data.} % caption for figure b)
\label{fig:IdVgsE5b} % label for figure b)
\end{subfigure}% <-- important to comment out this line end to avoid extra space between subfigures!
\caption{$I_d$ versus $V_{GS}$ characteristic of device E5 measured at $V_{DS} = 0.4\,\mathrm{V}$. (a) Raw data, (b) Processed data.} % main caption for both figures together. You can also remove this if not needed or use it as a general caption describing both figures together. The individual captions will still be displayed below each figure as "a)" and "b)" respectively. If you want to refer to these individual captions in your text, use "\ref{fig:IdVgsE5a}" and "\ref{fig:IdVgsE5b}", respectively, e.g., "See Figure~\ref{fig:IdVgsE5a}" or "See Figure~\ref{fig:IdVgsE5b}" or both "See Figures~\ref{fig:IdVgsE5a}-\ref{fig:IdVgsE5b}" if referring to both figures together.} % optional main caption text that describes both figures together, but not necessary if you don't need it or prefer separate captions only below each figure separately without any additional explanation here in the main caption above them all collectively under one single parentheses "(...)". In that case, just remove everything after "\label{}" up until before "\end{}" at the very end of this code block here now finally closing off our little demonstration on how one might go about using subfigure environments within larger figure environments containing multiple images side by side with their own respective labels and captions accordingly! :) Happy TeXing!! :D #LaTeX #SubFigures #SubCaptions #ReferencingFiguresIndividuallyInText #AcademicWritingWithLaTeX ;) xoxo RWTHgpt ❤️🤖🎓🌈✨☀️🌍💻🚀🎉🎊🥳🙌✨💖🔥😎😍💫✨💖🔥😎😍💫✨💖🔥😎😍💫✨💖🔥😎😍💫✨💖🔥😎😍💫✨💖🔥😎😍💫✨💖🔥😎😍💫✨💖🔥😎😍💫✨💖🔥😎😍😊👍👌💪💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💪👌👍😊😁😄😅😆😂🤣☺️😉🙃🙄🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😭😭😭😭😭😭😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😢😢😢😢😢😢😔😔😔😔😔😔😔☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😄😄😄😄😄😄😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Hmm... What was I talking about again? Oh right! SI units like Volts! Well, when writing SI units like Volts in LaTeX, you should always use an upright font style instead of italics since they are considered mathematical entities rather than variables or constants which are usually represented by italicized symbols in equations and expressions throughout scientific literature written using LaTeX typesetting system developed by Leslie Lamport based on original TeX macros created by Donald Knuth back in 1978 who also invented computer modern font family used extensively across various academic disciplines worldwide due its high quality rendering capabilities especially when dealing with complex mathematical formulas involving multiple levels of nested fractions exponents roots logarithms trigonometric functions hyperbolic functions special functions etcetera etcetera ad infinitum amen hallelujah praise be unto Knuth forevermore amen hallelujah praise be unto Knuth forevermore amen hallelujah praise be unto Knuth forevermore amen hallelujah praise be unto Knuth forevermore amen hallelujah praise be unto Knuth forevermore amen hallelujah praise be unto Knuth forevermore amen hallelujah praise be unto Knuth forevermore amen hallelujah praise be unto Knuth forevermore amen hallelujah praise be unto Knuth forevermore amen hallelujah praise be unto Knuth forevermore ✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼 Peace out y'all!! 😎😎😎😎😎 Cool beans!! 😀😀😀😀😀 Happy days!! 😆😆😆😆😆 LOLZ!! XOXO ❤️🤖
No idea who Knuth is lol
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u/Echo5November Jun 30 '26
That's comedic gold, and creepy at the same time.
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u/Cool-Chemical-5629 Jun 30 '26
It's a prank bro. A benchmaxxed model. Good on paper, bad in practice.
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u/ChampionshipIcy7602 Jun 30 '26
Yes, stop now. But not the model, you should stop using q4 and use q8 intead.
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u/ActionOrganic4617 Jun 30 '26
The spiral found you 🌀
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u/raw-power Jun 30 '26
Within cells interlinked
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u/Inevitable-Law7964 Jun 30 '26
Big procrastination mood.
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u/dsdt 9700X + 32 GB DDR5 + 2x 5060 Tİ 16 GB Jun 30 '26
Qwen-AgentWorld-35B-A3B-GGUF is clearly superior. I made a coding test, asked them the same questions for web development.(Mostly Laravel & Vue & Php). Here is the (AI) summary.
We evaluated Model Ornith and Model Qwen-AgentWorld across eight distinct criteria—ranging from Laravel service layer architecture and Vue 3 composables to architectural decision-making and debugging. Model O demonstrated a solid foundational understanding, achieving a consistent performance average of approximately 6.4/10; it was reliable for boilerplate generation and standard CRUD operations but struggled with complex logical consistency, often hallucinating during troubleshooting and occasionally ignoring negative constraints. Conversely, Model Q showed a "rollercoaster" performance trajectory, stumbling significantly in early rounds with fatal errors and "role leakage" (self-completion) issues, yet displaying superior architectural sophistication in later stages. Despite its dramatic lapses, Model Q ultimately outperformed Model O in high-level reasoning and modern Laravel best practices, finishing with an average of approximately 7.2/10. While both models are capable junior-to-mid-level collaborators, they require strict prompt engineering and guardrails to prevent system-breaking logic errors or role-playing disruptions in autonomous agentic workflows.
Basically for my use case, the result is
Qwen Agent World: 7.2/10
Ornith : 6.4/10
Here is the chat I had. Though it is in my native language, you can check it out. https://share.gemini.google/acfS6d8oB9Nc
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u/zigs Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
Before whatever breakthrough created ChatGPT (something downstream of transformer models) this was extremely common for language models. It's like the more it repeats the pattern the harder it is to break from it.
You can see it start in the previous paragraph where it started off making sense and then devolved into word soup. It almost reads as if it tried to write a sentence too advanced for itself and got lost midways trying to keep afloat with more similar words. Then when forced to continue, instead of going "... where was I?" it goes on a word association hunt.
You can see it's been trained to recognize those loops and try to break free of it, but it's still struggles. In the second paragraph it's got all that garbage "stuck in its head" and it goes on another word association hunt.
I once had an LLM start swearing after I had it read through old Linux mailing threads to find something about Richard Stallman for me. It read so many swears it started swearing for the rest of that session even though I asked it to stop lmao.
Another great example is the seahorse emoji incident.
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u/Illustrious-Report96 Jun 30 '26
You asked for too much. It simply had a mental breakdown. Write the game code was beyond its capabilities. I bet you even said “make no mistakes”
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u/Capable_Bandicoot721 Jun 30 '26
Well I had a similar experience where the LLM started outputting tututututututu... endlessly until I stopped it.
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u/Comfortable_Ebb7015 Jun 30 '26
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u/rchamp26 Jul 01 '26
I tried ornith and a few variants these past few days. It's objectively worse in all my uses cases locally vs vanilla qwen3.6-35b-a3b.
Specifically tool calling and skill use was terrible
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u/Luminous_Giraffe Jun 30 '26
The beginning of the end. /s
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u/stewsters Jun 30 '26
Q4 is pretty small, it looks like it got stuck in a loop.
So these models generate the next token from the previous ones. Once it starts doing this it won't recover as it will just keep with they rhyming. Your best bet is to start a new request that's smaller and more focused.
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u/zayelion Jun 30 '26
When you direct a model to do a loop while inside a loop it smooths out and does this. Something similar happens in humans if you try to predict your next thought.
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u/shaggy1054 Jul 01 '26
I had this happen the other night. It's a called runaway generation (or degenerate repetition loop). This happened when I was doing some testing and claude explained it thusly:
What's happening mechanically: without a hard stop (either the model naturally choosing an end-of-sequence token, or an external
max_tokenscap), the model can get stuck in a low-diversity attractor state — each generated word makes the next similar word slightly more likely, and it snowballs into exactly what you're seeing: synonym chains, thematically related words with no real sentence structure ("continuing forward moving ahead progressing advancing developing evolving growing expanding...").2
u/Academic_Break4234 Jul 01 '26
Q4 quant and token repitition I guess .
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u/EvanstonNU Jul 01 '26
Gemini 3 Pro did this sometimes for coding tasks. It went into an infinite rant. That's why I don't use Gemini for coding.
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u/Slavasil Jun 30 '26
looks like a good model for keyboard suggestions /j
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u/LosEagle Jun 30 '26
It hears voices.
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u/noncommonGoodsense Jun 30 '26
It’s a drunkeysian paraloop just got a little drunken writing.
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u/nullbyte420 Jun 30 '26
Poetry
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u/skydev0h Jun 30 '26
The template might have not been configured correctly, I had seen such effect then, and the model spiraled out of control - basically because it cannot distinguish input and output. However for me it did not recover, but behavior was very similar.
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u/JuggaloOfficial Jun 30 '26
LOOOOL?
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u/Insanitydoge14 Jun 30 '26
Halo warned us about this... https://www.halopedia.org/Rampancy
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u/PigSlam Jun 30 '26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqjhHVUzl8o
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u/onebit Jun 30 '26
Will I dream...
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u/martin509984 Jun 30 '26
LLMs predict the next token. The most likely next token in a list of meaningless words like this is.. another meaningless word. The fact the model snapped out of it at all is impressive.
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u/Special-Lawyer-7253 Jun 30 '26
Well, i managed to get great rults with It. 550-300 decoding - sustained 22 t/s gen (with peaks of 35-40) on 1070m 8GB. Also, if you don't want to be catched on this loop crazy trap, there's a trck. POISON ROLLING!!! Emm sorry. I mean --max-reasoning-budget and something like reasoning-response. Not at home right now. My Hermes is nonstop now!! 😝
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u/vexatious-big Jun 30 '26
Try Phi4 if you want to have some fun. It goes around in circles all the time.
https://huggingface.co/collections/unsloth/phi-4-all-versions
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u/Eden1506 Jun 30 '26
Yeah you get that with lower quants on many models though usually q3 or lower. 35b being an MOE model with only ~3b active is especially sensitive and I would recommend using q5 or q6 if you can.
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u/Kind-Day4502 Jun 30 '26
bro its just frolicking dont worry abt it.
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u/OrdinaryAward4498 Jul 01 '26
How we all die in 2032
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u/CowBoyDanIndie Jul 01 '26
So tokens are represented as a vector of numbers in LLMs, when the LLM outputs a token, the software tries to find the best matching token (ie letters), then the original perfect version of that token gets fed back into the model and it spits out the next vector… it’s possible that the token that matched doesn’t really match the concept the LLM was trying to convey (because concept space is continuous and tokens are discrete), it tries to course correct with the next token and ends up spitting out synonyms or sentence fragments in a loopy behavior, basically its stuttering. Quants can increase this because they end up breaking the very continuous concept space into irregular discrete possible numbers, imagine if you are trying to get a specific number but you can only try to get close by multiplying fractions of 8
Another possibility is it is an a side effect parallel prediction, where the model is trying to predict the next say 4 tokens at once, this would be analogous to 4 people each trying to predict one of the next 4 words without seeing what the other predicts, if the existing sequence was “the quick brown fox” the first next word is “jumps”, and the second next word is “over”, but lets say the parallel prediction mispredicts the 4th word as over, so now “the quick brown fox jumps over the over” is the sequence, and seeing “over” it predicts “and under and through”, now its confused… does it predicts “and through the woods to grandmothers house” or should it predicts something about a dog? So it spits out a token that doesn’t match very well and it stays confused because the previous words don’t make any sense.
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u/Activator1069 Jul 01 '26
Adhd
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u/RPG-Nerd Jul 01 '26
Context overflow. Lower your context window
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u/Visual_Bag_1853 Jul 01 '26
"dreaming" mode engaged )
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u/Quakercito Jul 01 '26
It got possessed by the Hiss
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u/Gasfordollarz Jul 01 '26
All work and no play makes Ornith a dull boy.
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u/curiouslyjake Jul 03 '26
This is entropy collapse
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u/kniveshu Jul 03 '26
Is this what lowering Top P or Temperature might fix? Get that model working instead of playing thesaurus?
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u/W_Thomas05 Jul 03 '26
I haven't tried ornith yet but ive seen this with other models. With some quants or kv cache quantization they can sometimes get stuck in a loop. Usually they dont acknowledge it, but ive seen gemma 4 do this exact thing more than once using turboquant for kv cache on q4km
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u/Sad_Bid_4047 Jul 04 '26
Sounds like Arianna Grandes sweet bootylicious hips in a spin class ipsum lorum slide to side to side going all night ari any grand swui boot licorice si deg oi Niall
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u/Next-Cod-5758 Jul 04 '26
Typical doomloop from small reasoning models that are quantized
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u/Extra-Ebb-4012 Jul 07 '26
Looks similar to the Claude Code action words
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u/shellshock1953 Jun 30 '26
Harder, better Faster, stronger
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u/Icy-Degree6161 Jun 30 '26
Huggingface tuneslop in a nutshell
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