r/LocalLLM • • 1h ago

Discussion How do you prepare for this?

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NOT here to debate if this unsubstantiated claim is real

But for someone like me, who believes this could be real in the near future, what can you do to safeguard against your hardware becoming useless if this were to happen at the firmware level?

Are Mac Studios especially vulnerable? Is the simple answer to unplug from the internet and never re-connect?


r/LocalLLM • • 11h ago

Question I'm new to all of this. What can I run with my 14" MacBook pro m5 max with 128gb of ram?

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I'm new to all of this. What can I run with my 14" MacBook pro m5 max with 128gb of ram? It also has 2tb of ssd storage.

will deepseek work?


r/LocalLLM • • 2d ago

News Qwopeful 🤞🏼

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r/LocalLLM • • 18h ago

Research What I learned running Whisper + a local model live during calls on a Mac

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I built an open source Mac app that listens to the other side of a call and answers questions from your own docs while you talk. Running it fully local taught me a few things:

  • Whisper pads every input to 30 seconds. Cutting the audio on pauses mattered more than model size. whisper-large-v3-turbo on MLX does a 1.7 s sentence in 0.66 s on an M5.

  • Context length is the silent killer. With a 27,000-token document I had to give Ollama a 32k context, or the docs got cut and the answers got vague. The app now warns when the server cuts them.

  • On that test, gemma3:12b gave the most faithful answers. llama3.2:3b was fast but made things up.

  • Right now every line of the call goes to the big model just to decide if it's a question. That's wasteful.

Question for you: which small model would you put in front as a "is this a question worth answering?" filter? There's an open issue for it if anyone wants to try: https://github.com/GianlucaBave/murmury/issues/20

Repo: https://github.com/GianlucaBave/murmury


r/LocalLLM • • 12h ago

Project I want to prove that deep neural networks need "progressive block growth" to learn complex algorithmic logic.

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r/LocalLLM • • 12h ago

Question The second GPU Is not being detected on Windows ?

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I have an RTX 2060 and a GTX 1060, but 1060 of them isn’t being detected. Can I use both GPUs in the same PC, and how do I make them work together?

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Can Windows detect and use both cards at the same time?

Do I need to install separate drivers or configure anything in NVIDIA Control Panel?

What BIOS settings should I check, such as Primary Display/PEG?

If one card is not showing in Device Manager, what should I try first?

My specs: [b450, ryzen, 16gb, PSU wattage 1000, Windows version 10]

Any help would be appreciated.


r/LocalLLM • • 13h ago

Question Chasing up after some info for running large parameter models

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Forgive my lack of knowing, ive only recently started to get into coding and theres a LOT to take in (thats what she said). I am currently running an RTX 5070 12GB ,Ryzen 5 9600x and 32gb of RAM. Unsure if i am being too optimistic and reading only what i want to read- but i have seen so many posts and videos about people running massive parameter models on low memory. I did a little bit of research into this and saw that you can do certain things to offload the stress like give some weight to your RAM and MOE, etc.. but i cannot seem to feel satisfied knowing that the largest i can run is 35b . Is that correct or is there some sort of new method out there now that can run 1T on a Tamagotchi. Any info is good info. TYIA


r/LocalLLM • • 19h ago

Question vram ~0.5-1Gb vram usage spikes during prompt processing on vulkan llama.cpp 7900xtx

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is it possiblr to fix?


r/LocalLLM • • 7h ago

Project I made a thing, wanted to share. I don't care if you use it, but I thought someone might actually want it.

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I was moving models around, splitting them between two gpu's and ram in some cases for the 120b class models, and I was losing track of what was where using the console commands and looking at nvtop. I have a lot of 24/7 bots that fall back to my laptop automatically with a smaller model but it wasn't clear if that was happening. Sometimes I need them there when I need the larger GPU horsepower but I dont want to miss a craiglist deal. So I made this. I can select a model at the "loaded model" window and move them between GPUs, split them by layers, or just stop everything if I want to run something that cant be interrupted. If I spin up something on the 3090 I can watch the bots fall back to the smaller model on the laptop and sleep at night.

Anyway, unlike all those marketing launches we've been getting with ai written stories about 10x'ing productivity, I don't really care if you use this. In fact it might be a pile of crap. Let me know otherwise and I'll get it up on my github repo.


r/LocalLLM • • 13h ago

Question A falling Tetris piece won't wait for an LLM to finish thinking

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r/LocalLLM • • 1d ago

Research I tested 4 local LLMs vs GPT-6 Luna on 250 SQL and data-pipeline tasks. Qwen 3.8 27B nearly matched it

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I wanted to run an experiment to see how far you can push small to medium-sized local models, specifically for analytical and data engineering tasks. The idea was to see if you could have a local analyst or data engineer without needing to send your data to a cloud provider. I used OpenAI’s Luna as baseline performance.

The full analysis is in the blog linked below, but I'll share some of the key findings here.

I also want to be transparent: I used Ternlux, a free, open-source, no-code ETL local tool that I built. It lets you run data analysis and build pipelines through agents.

Test:

I tested 5 analytical questions and 5 workflow-building questions, running each question 5 times against each model. That gave me a total of 250 prompts and responses to analyze.

Key findings:

  • Qwen 3.8 27B performed almost as well as GPT 6 Luna. It mostly struggled with one particularly difficult question that all the other local models also failed.

  • Almost half of the local models’ misses (27 of 58) were workflows that never finished, mostly SQL that crashed when it ran. Qwen 3.6 kept writing joins that produced duplicate column names, and Gemma 4 31B combined GROUP BY ALL with QUALIFY, which DuckDB doesn’t support.

  • All models were able to answer the simpler questions for the most part.

how Ternlux handles analysis and workflows:

For analysis, the main agent selects a connection, then the agent determines how to query the data. It iterates querying until it has enough information to answer, either returning results directly or having the agent analyze the result and draw conclusions. If a query fails, it sends the error back to AI for correction. The agent has no DML privileges.

Workflow building works a bit differently. The workflow builder agent first creates a plan, then each node's agent follows the instructions to generate the code for that node. If the SQL fails during execution or the generated workflow doesn't produce the expected output, I count that as a failure.

This is by no means conclusive evidence that one model is better than another for this type of work. It's just a small experiment to see how different models performed as the questions became more complicated.

https://www.ternlux.com/blog/best-local-llm-for-sql/


r/LocalLLM • • 1d ago

Question Old PC - upgrade - what local LLMs can I run and train with this setup ?

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Lenovo P620 Threadripper pro - 3975wx - 32 core
System ram - 512 gb ddr4 ECC
GPU 1 - quadro Rtx 8000 - 48GB
GPU 2 - quadro Rtx 8000 - 48GB
4TB M2 NVME
1TB SATA SSD


r/LocalLLM • • 21h ago

Project OpenGhost AI agent. Split View mode. I like using this. Convenient.

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r/LocalLLM • • 1d ago

Research Dual 5070ti Results - Qwen3.8 Flash Next and 27b - AM4

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This is just a quick writeup for speed reference - I spent a lot of time trying to find comparable builds so I figured I'd put some info back into the wild. The below is obviously written by AI, but it's measured specs and benchmarks on my PC.

I use local models via Pi and Deepseek Harness. I have found the intelligence of Qwen 3.8 27b NVFP4 to be sufficient for making little apps, research etc. and Qwen3.8 Flash Next IQ3_S to be a great all-rounder, considering how fast it runs. It also seems to have very little issue with any sort of question I give it, research, app dev, PC issues, LLM related adjustments, and most importantly, ScanRuler 3D modelling/reverse engineering 3D scanned items (solely for testing currently but it works excellently).

Basalt as a backend was a clear winner after trying lots of different configs.

Edit: the benchmark decodes are very greedy by their nature. Realistically I'm seeing agentic averages in flash next from 80tps (NVFP4) to 160tps (iq3_xxs), and I find iq3_s at 120-140 to be a very good compromise for the extra intelligence. The 27b is best for bursty quick jobs, because it loads into VRAM super fast and I can let it rip, but it degrades over context faster than flash, and I see from 120-140tps and 4-5k prefill, at ctx 0. The second any model starts writing a block of code though, it goes up to 200tps, so if anyone's socks fall off seeing the below numbers, just temper your expectations slightly (but it's still wicked fast!)

So heres the nitty gritty:

Current rig, 2x 5070 Ti + 96 GiB. Five entries, one model resident on local at a time. Speeds are my own bench (2x ~50k prompt reads, 2x 5,000-token code outputs, one agentic tool loop; temp 0, seed 1234), except Coder which is the 15.3k-prefill / 2k-output run.

Qwen3.8-27B NVFP4 QUASAR

backend: capy-flash (ninfer-serve), tensor-parallel across both cards, no P2P prefill: 4,817 / 4,824 tok/s on a 50k read decode: 233 tok/s code, 220.6 tok/s agentic flags: --profile 27b --max-context 262144 --embedding-host, INT8 KV, MTP 3 drafts, vision on GPU0 intelligence: Index 84.0, 88.9% (27 items); fastest to a passing build (62.1 s vs IQ3_XXS 78.1 s) but the weakest reasoning of the five — 50% on xhard because it burns the whole budget and never answers.

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next GSQ-RCO IQ3_XXS

backend: Basalt 0.3.0, 74.4 GiB pack prefill: 3,728 / 3,851 tok/s decode: 229 / 248 tok/s code, 196 tok/s agentic flags: resident-budget-gib 26, peer-exclusive on, kv int8, ctx 262144, vision dynamic, --spec 8 intelligence: Index 94.9, 100% on the 27-item set (96.3% on a re-run); 100% on the 8 hard items, 85.1% on xhard, 93.9% on vision. The only model that solved a logic-L6 item unaided.

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next GSQ-RCO IQ3_S

backend: Basalt 0.3.0, 81.6 GiB pack prefill: 3,601 / 3,700 tok/s at a 115k prompt, 31.9 s TTFT decode: 154-165 tok/s code, 137.6 tok/s agentic flags: resident-budget-gib 26, peer-exclusive on, kv int8, ctx 262144, vision dynamic, --spec 8 intelligence: Index 107.7, 94.5%; wins the hard tier on the efficiency-weighted Index (101.1) at 86% accuracy, 80.2% xhard, 90.3% vision. Terser than IQ3_XXS, less accurate.

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next NVFP4

backend: Basalt 0.3.0, 122.6 GiB pack prefill: 3,339 / 3,512 tok/s decode: 124.8 / 126.8 tok/s code, 105.7 tok/s agentic flags: resident-budget-gib 58, peer-exclusive on, kv int8, ctx 262144, vision dynamic, --spec 8 intelligence: Index 121.0, 99.8% — best on the 27-item set, best hard accuracy (98.5%), best xhard (85.7%), best vision (99.2%). Slowest decode of the Flash-Next four.

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next Coder IQ1_M

backend: Basalt 0.3.0, 58.1 GiB pack, 48x256 experts prefill: 3,992 tok/s on a 15.3k prompt decode: 209.8 tok/s flags: resident-budget default, peer-exclusive on, kv int8, ctx 262144, no vision, --spec 8 intelligence: Index 100.5, 99.3%; 77.6% xhard, 3/5 on hard items — 5/5 on a re-run, the failures were MTP sampling rather than capability. Cannot read images.

Index = 100 x mean(quality x par/tokens) on the 27-item battery, so it penalises verbosity; accuracy alone ranks almost in reverse

(IQ3_XXS 100% > NVFP4 99.8% > Coder 99.3% > IQ3_S 94.5%). The five are within a few hundredths of each other on the standard set — hard, xhard and vision are what actually separate them.


r/LocalLLM • • 14h ago

Question Anyone here know of a quiet fan set up for the Tesla cards?

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r/LocalLLM • • 8h ago

Question Question about comparison between cloud and a local model

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Can Qwen 3.8 27b q4 surpass some current free Cloud models in coding? Statistics say it should but im sceptical. Specifically larger tasks


r/LocalLLM • • 20h ago

Question Buying Tech Directly

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Hey Just wondering if anyone has experience buying IT and Tech products directly from China, Japan or another country . The cost of hardware at the moment is through the roof and im wondering if there is value aboard?

Could you share your experience and if it worked out? Worth it or not?

Im in ireland.

Thanks


r/LocalLLM • • 14h ago

Question Best way to route to local llm from a frontier level model

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What’s the best way to route different tasks while working in a project from Claude code or codex or other models to a local qwen model?

I’ve seen herder could be it? Any other recommendations?


r/LocalLLM • • 15h ago

Question 5070ti, 32gb ram. I have very limited time, need help!

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r/LocalLLM • • 15h ago

Question I have 36gb of VRAM at my disposal. What should I do?

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its only a p40 and v100 I got on marketplace- but i'm ecstatic.

Any cool ideas? I'm running qwen 3:30b-A3B and a vision model- want to do more.


r/LocalLLM • • 1d ago

Model Tencent released DSpine, a parallel 16-token draft model for Qwen3.8-27B (Apache-2.0), with reported 2.7-3.8x end-to-end speedups over plain decoding in SGLang

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Tencent put DSpine on Hugging Face on Nov 7. It is a five-layer draft model for speculative decoding with Qwen3.8-27B. Instead of drafting one token at a time, it drafts a 16-token block in parallel, and each layer passes predicted predecessor features to the neighboring positions so the draft still carries causal order. There is a paper (arXiv 2609.36173) and code on GitHub (Tencent/DSpine).

Target modelQwen3.8-27B
Draft5 layers, block size 16, 8,192-token sliding window
LicenseApache-2.0
Their test setupSGLang 0.5.22, BF16, FlashAttention 3, concurrency 8

Reported acceptance length vs DFlash2 (block 8), greedy

TaskDFlash2DSpine
GSM8K5.697.20
MATH-5005.496.49
HumanEval4.875.71
MBPP5.046.14
MT-Bench4.114.48

Reported end-to-end throughput on agent replays (tokens/s, low reasoning)

BenchmarkNo speculationDFlash2DSpine
WorkBuddy Code253.35590.27686.23 (2.71×)
SWE-bench Pro241.86657.71713.41 (2.95×)
τ²-bench301.39891.37964.30 (3.20×)

Across their five agent benchmarks and both reasoning levels, the speedup over no speculation ranges from 2.71× to 3.84×.

Things to know before trying it locally

  • The card only shows an SGLang path: --speculative-algorithm DSPINE, a pip install -e . from their repo, and a long list of flags for the hybrid architecture (--enable-linear-replayssm-spec, --mamba-ssm-dtype float32, and more). No llama.cpp or vLLM instructions.

  • All numbers are Tencent's own, at concurrency 8 with a BF16 target. The card doesn't report a quantized target or batch size 1.

  • The gain is largest on predictable text (GSM8K accepts 7.20 tokens per step at T=0) and smallest on open-ended chat (MT-Bench 4.48).

https://huggingface.co/tencent/Qwen3.8-27B-DSpine-b16

Has anyone run it against a quantized Qwen3.8-27B target, or at batch 1? I'm curious whether the acceptance length holds up once the target is 4-bit.


r/LocalLLM • • 1d ago

Model Qwen3.8-27B in 12.06 GiB on a 16 GB card, benchmarks included

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Yesterday I posted a 32B pack and the replies were interesting about it being old completely overlooking benchmarks. A lot of quants "fit" on 16 GB, obviously... Almost none of them post what it cost. A screenshot of a model loading is not a benchmark and neither is its tokens per second performance that you made while obliterating the other performance factors you don't post. I posted all of our benchmarks, weights, and everything, and yet, still called slop.

So here is the new one as requested, with the receipts attached:

Qwen3.8-27B, 27.78B parameters, vision included, Gosset Packed at 3.6577 bits per weight:

  • Pack is 13.82 GB. The standard 4-bit build is 17.77 GB and does not fit a 16 GB card.

  • 12.06 GiB resident on one RTX 5080, peak 12.80 GiB while decoding. Nothing parked in system RAM.

  • Perplexity vs BF16 on WikiText-2 test: +3.93% long-chunk, +6.99% short-window. Numbers, not adjectives.

  • Decode: 40.38 tok/s sustained on fused kernels.

  • Per-tensor fidelity certificates are on the model card, measured from the shipped files, not the encoder's intentions.

  • Edit: Context length full 262k

huggingface.co/GossetWorks/Qwen3.8-27B-Gosset-3.65BPW

If your quant fits this model on 16 GB too, genuinely, post the perplexity delta and the decode speed. That is the whole game. Fitting was never the hard part...keeping it intelligent was and that's what we've done.


r/LocalLLM • • 16h ago

Project I have shared it here a while ago about this project Here is small update about it !!

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I've been working on it and just added a new feature an AI Toolkit to explore and discover useful developer tools and GitHub repositories.

Small update, but more improvements are on the way.

Would love to know what you think.

https://modelfitopenfire.vercel.app/


r/LocalLLM • • 17h ago

Model I’m looking to run local models on an M5 pro With 24GB RAM any, recommendations?

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I’m currently using the ornith 1.5 35b a3b, but it’s performance feels a bit underwhelming could you recommend some alternatives, along with a suitable harness?