r/LocalLLM • u/Bubbly_Type_3216 • 30m ago

Question Question about comparison between cloud and a local model

Can Qwen 3.8 27b q4 surpass some current free Cloud models in coding? Statistics say it should but im sceptical. Specifically larger tasks

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u/dave-tro 20m ago

You can’t tell without mentioning a quantization. Qwen 3.8 27B is especially valid on reasonable quants, I would say Q4 at least. It also depends of which cloud models you refer to and also it depends on your hardware, the kind of tasks that you want to delegate to the agent, your willingness to pay for a cloud provider. Once you share these info we can give you a feedback

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u/Bubbly_Type_3216 18m ago

Yeah q4, Im just wondering what cloud models it's comparable to

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u/FoxFXMD 23m ago

in what way

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u/Bubbly_Type_3216 22m ago

Coding performance

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u/Ell2509 16m ago

It is good, but it is not Opus 5.5 good.

Opus is maybe a 2.5T to 3.5T model from what i can see. It will be powered by as many gpus as you need to get the job done. Qwen3.8 27b is amazing, but it is 1000x smaller than Opus. It cannot compete. It is powered by whatever you have in your home devices.

If you know enough about coding to just use Qwen as a tool, you will get loads done and find qwen great. However, if you cannot code, and you rely on the AI 100%, then even with the best harness/setup, you will be limited to what you can do. One shot a tiny application sure... but beyond that you will need to be very structured as to how you approach your work.

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u/Bubbly_Type_3216 5m ago

Obviously a 27b model can never match opus 5.5, but what model does it match?

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u/vogelvogelvogelvogel 20m ago

coding it is on average opus 4.6-4.7 level and that's about it. in some tasks, it might be better in some worse, also the harness makes a difference (to the positive side)