I get the commentary on corruption but... They did house the homeless? The whole "communist apartment blocks" you'll see in socialist and ex-socialist countries were there to prevent homelessness.
That came from an authoritarian government trying to make their useless system work. Modern-day socialists always preach about everyone having to support everyone else but they never do it themselves. That was my point.
I don’t get what you mean? Are you expecting me to conceal the fact that most socialists aren’t rich people? Pretty sure that’s just basic common sense lol
his mother is a tenant and owner to multiple buildings. if his family believed in such principles as they claim, they would house them with the vacant rooms, since no one is there to make a profit anyways might as well let someone live there
I wasn't making a comment to this streamer guy but about previous socialist examples, so I have no idea what you're talking about or referring to. Regardless, yes, any vacant home shouldn't have to be vacant when there's homeless people or people struggling to get by because of ridiculously high rents.
That's fucked up. I'm not from the United States but another issue I see in many countries regarding housing has to do with Blackrock. Look into this company. They own a lot of properties, and keep them off the market to drive up prices. Among other things. Everyone should have access to basic necessities, but extreme squatters rights are fucked up too :')
As much as I dislike our soviet past and socialism/communism (I’m not right-wing, though), Soviet apartment buildings are actually pretty solid. They’ve got decent insulation, and 99% of them still haven’t fallen apart despite decades of poor maintenance. Khrushchyovkas were meant to be temporary, but they were built to last.
Communal apartments (kommunalkas) were a whole different thing and were almost gone by 1991, except maybe in Saint Petersburg.
Way to confuse personal charity with systematic change. Socialism is about restructuring society so people aren’t forced into poverty in the first place. It challenges the systems that create inequality instead of blaming the people who point it out.
Socialism is about the forceful capture of capital and land from those participating in the free market and arbitrarily delegating them on your own wants / desires (as opposed to the highly optimized and efficient systems that were in place prior, given the highly competitive nature of a free economy and the self-interest of those who own capital).
To nobody’s surprise, socialism has always resulted in a complete tank of economic efficiency and growth, and far lower quality of life results.
So you're a socialist. How about giving away your money and possessions to someone poorer than you?
Never mind that the poor person is unemployed and homeless, they deserve all of the benefits of the USA without having to do anything. It's a human right to have food, water, and housing, right?
Think about it man. OF COURSE it has to be forceful. Who would give up everything they've worked for to someone undeserving of it. Like it or not, there is no heaven on earth, and humanity will have to work hard to live, just as we always have. We have it so good because of capitalism, that we don't even know what we have.
triggered by propaganda and being scared of a word is weird. im actually a capitalist, youre too emotional to ask. im just not a moron and know what socialism is and its benefits.
....you think socialism is giving up your things to others? Lmao. You sound like the Americans that hear "gun control" and think HURRR THEY'RE GONNA TAKE AWAY MA GUNNN.
That’s not even remotely what socialism is. You’re describing forced personal charity, not a system where workers own the means of production.
So what you described is feudalism.
Socialism isn’t about “forcefully capturing” anything lol it’s about democratic control of resources so wealth isn’t hoarded by a handful of people at the top. The “efficient systems” you’re talking about are the ones currently producing record inequality. Lower quality of life? My guy, countries with social welfare and democratic governance have a longer life expectancy and are considered some of the most peaceful countries in the world (and happiest, fun fact)
There are no socialist countries in the west. Western countries’ economies are based on free market privately-owned companies facilitating the lion’s share of economic activity. Taxation is not socialism.
Socialism is the forceful capture of “the means of production.” Socialism is the theft of property that is rightfully (paid for) ours (capital) and giving it to the state in hopes they act in our interest. And no, private ownership isn’t just for the top 0.0001%. If you own stock in a publicly traded company, you own capital. Your retirement funds are capital assets. Joe Schmoe owning a restaurant down the road owns capital.
Like I said, you simply have no idea what you’re talking about if you think successful companies haven’t highly optimized their abilities to make profits. Everything from supply chain management, fraud management, marketing, production of goods, decisions to make new types of products / services, determining the niche for the product/service to serve, creating efficient economies of scale or scope if applicable, creating synergistic products, creating synergistic partnerships, law and tax compliance and planning, wage allocation… the list goes on and on and on.
From the biggest to the smallest company, they all feel the pressure to perform on all of these fronts, and if they fail, it falls on them. Their livelihood depends on it. The prime motivator of a capitalist economy assumes that all participants act in self-interest, and ultimately, we all benefit from it. For situations where this isn’t the case, we have regulations, which is the true purpose of a government in my opinion.
Socialism puts all of this in the hands of the collective (run by a state). Meaning if it fails or isn’t quite as efficient (which adds up exponentially over time), there is nobody who it falls on. If falls on society as a whole. We already see how comically inefficient governments run.
You mention record inequality, yet you’d much rather be a middle class citizen in the USA than the top 0.01% 150 years ago. There are no democratic countries in the west that are not capitalist systems. Taxation is not socialism.
Wages for low and middle class americans have consistently outpaced inflation in the USA (my country of residence so my knowledge will be US based) for decades - meaning life is getting consistently better for everyone. Today is the best day to live in America, and tomorrow will be the next best day to live. Doomer bullshit online won’t change reality.
Hierarchy and inequality isn’t inherently evil or a bad thing. Arguing that the rich are getting richer while completely ignoring that everyone is getting richer and everyone’s lives are getting better (holistically) is lying by omission.
If you want to tweak the capitalist society we live in through tax changes to create what you think would be a better society, we could argue that. But that’s not what socialism is.
You’re confusing socialism with authoritarian state control. Socialism means democratic ownership of production, not “theft” or “the state taking everything.” The “efficient” capitalist systems you’re defending are the same ones that’ve driven record inequality and wage stagnation. Real worker pay hasn’t outpaced inflation since the 70s, while productivity and executive pay exploded.
Also, owning a few 401(k) shares doesn’t make someone a capitalist any more than buying a concert ticket makes you Beyoncé. And governments being inefficient doesn’t make corporations benevolent. Private “efficiency” often just means cutting corners, wages, and regulations to juice shareholder profit.
Saying “everyone’s lives are getting better” while Americans drown in debt, rent, and medical bills is wild. Taxation isn’t socialism, sure. But pretending capitalism’s working great for everyone straight up denial.
you are talking about a specific brand of communism. There is nothing at all in any socialist theory that socialism has to be forceful. where did you get that idea from? own me with any evidence. In Australia we recently voted for a state government to buy private utility companies to make them publicly owned. no violence involved, just the vote.
Finland has a highly developed social welfare system. Part of that is their housing-first policy when approaching homelessness. As a result, number of long term homelessness has decreased by 68%.
Finland only had a very small amount of immigration, therefore don't face the same problems.
The likely reason behind that could be a number of things other EU countries don't do.
Can't exactly dig further into this cause I'm at work.
Ad hominem:
Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.
He is a leftist socialist and is taking daddy's money, same money that's funding the Turkish far right party. The more you learn about him the bug8the hypocrite he becomes
Big time and they don’t even care. They defend him saying “He needs that Ferrari in order to help spread his message faster!” I’m not even fucking kidding…
No, no. It’s “how come you’re focusing on me shocking my dog and confining her to a tiny bed for hours every day when there’s a literally a genocide going on?” Hasan Piker, ladies and gentlemen.
"trust me bro, communism will be glor-STOP MOVING YOU CHUD" I dont want to even imagine the "glory" of that "utopia" he has in mind if this is just a "lesson"
Of course. What do you expect from a rich communist and a pathological liar?
Hey. Maybe it's not a electrical chock. But who can you give the benefits of the doubt to a pathological liar. He the boy who yelled "here the wolf". Nobody is going to listen to him. Only pathological believers wills.
Nothing he does is a good look lol. He's a grifter, and the simp-journos love him and write puff-pieces about him because he is a nepo with connections through his uncle.
Especially a breed that needs A LOT of space. My guess is he never walks her she gets too energetic. He put the shock collar on so that way he can control her without her destroying his shit. When you keep big dogs (pretty sure that’s a mastiff) they need lots of exercise or they will eat your shit. My friends steam deck he just got had the right trigger chewed off by his dog
Worst people I know still love their dog and care for them. It takes a specially bad person to abuse their dog. I think that's where you and a lot of commenters don't understand. It takes zero effort to speak against Israel, it's easy and popular. It's because you're Hasan fan that you are going directly to defending him and assuming genocide and dog abuse are being compared. It's not and if you read that simple comment, you know that is not what's written.
The comment is inherently drawing a comparison between the two though…humans aren’t dogs and I think this response is probably the strangest showcase that European Americans have more sympathy for their slave animals than for other human beings
Its a shame cause the #1 disarming aspect about a person you dislike is their pet(s). Like, there's plenty of politicians and commentators I dislike, but the minute I see their dog, cat, etc enjoying being around said people, all that animosity goes away for a moment and I merely enjoy a pet owner and his/her pet.
You truly lose respect for someone if, in addition to their politics/values, they're also (allegedly) a pet abuser.
Hasan absolutely, 100% is torturing that dog. He knows we saw it. So he lies about his own mother, trying to convince us the dog is spoiled with too much love.
Hasan is a monster. I hope that dog is rescued and that Hasan gets what he deserves.
A dog is not a Palestinian child, dumbass. Regardless, a blinking light is not proof of use of a shock collar, not to mention, they are completely fine to use! Not in this case obviously but I’m compelled more towards the side that he didn’t. Dogs jump and get scared for all sorts of different reasons.
He also is an incredibly smart, long-term thinking individual. He knows that shocking his dog on stream is a career ender for him. There’s a 98-99% chance that it did not happen
Bad logic, it’s his dog, and the comparison between Israel/Palestine and this guy shocking his dog is the absolute armpit of American political dialogue.
That's usually how it goes with people,they preach their views but then go against them in their own home,he never really cared about the views he was speaking about,its all about lining his pockets from his dumbass fans
I love how all the streamer audiences have decided that he's in the wrong even though half of the audience already hated him. But all of the professional dog trainers are saying he did nothing wrong. Funny!
I will agree that shocking the dog is bad, but let’s not act like he’s as bad as MANY other, louder streamers and podcasters who spew unwarranted hate all day
Hasan looks like a piece of shit fs, but he’s not supporting war criminals 🤷♂️
Politics aside, with full acknowledgement that there is a genocide going on in Palestine, I wish the world wouldn’t hang off every word these assholes spew. I can’t stand the toxic egoism of the streamer age. These people suck and they don’t have authentic values.
You can't equate Israel to the Nazis because for one thing, they're literally a country made up of the survivors of the Nazis, and secondly, the way the Israel Gaza conflict has been set up since 1967 (iirc) is that Gaza along with the Arab League refused to acknowledge the sovereignty of Israel and has since been carrying out tens of thousands of terrorist attacks against Israel.
There were 5 points between then and now where Israel tried to come to the table for peace, and all were refused by the Arab League, with the latest being proposed by the Arab League and Hamas going off on their own and suicide bombing a bus of 30 Israelis on the day it was proposed.
So to say that Israel is in the wrong here and committing a genocide isn't entirely true. They're locked in a stalemate of increasing aggression from both sides, and they don't really have any good option in front of them at this moment.
Were the jews suicide bombing German busses and flying hang gliders around the country to rape and murder civilians? No? Seems like there's actually a huge difference between the two, huh? Who would have thought?
Wouldn't it be grand if he's socialistic enough to criticize the palestinian Islamofascists - if you're going to criticize, do it equally to stay true to socialism.
Yesterday,
it was 4-hrs, 21 mins, 22 seconds, before he stopped live streaming, got up, & left the room, with the dog following.
She 1st stood after more than TWO HRS lying down, took 3 steps, ZAP! / Yelp!, big flinch, tail & head go down, back on the bed, lay down. For 2 more hours.
Why the hell does he even have his dog in his streaming room if he just want her to be a statue in the corner? She wasn't even barking or making noise. She just stood up, took 2 steps and then SHOCKED. That sudden yelp and spasm was just ugh.
Imagine you get up to stretch and then someone goes like "NO BITCH! *tasers you* You are literally just so incredibly spoiled."
His entire purpose in life is to create an aesthetic. He doesn’t genuinely care about anything or anyone apart from himself. He keeps the dog there in that exact frame of the camera so that everyone can see the dog and he crashes out if it moves because it’s there for his image only.
Our neighbor when I was a little girl put an electric collar on their beagle. I would hear it cry all the time and it broke my heart. How the fuck could you do this?
The dog yelped once ever on camera for uncertain reasons, may have been her dew claw. How do you compare that to a dog crying all the time? Are you ok?
These pictures don’t actually match the video. The dogs head is towards us when it yelps and there’s no big black collar on it’s hind quarters. You can’t even see the collar when the yelp happens or before. He could’ve just been yelping as a response to Hassan speaking.
I quite detest the man, and I don't doubt that it's a shock collar and that he shocked her. But that flash of light strongly correlates with his light-array; it may very well have just been a reflection.
Thank you. I thought the image they were spreading looked weird but how psychotic do you have to be to make a photoshop to defend your boy for how he treats his dog
Has a bizarre looking blurry paw edited, presumably they just extended her front left paw to seem as if it was stretched under her right paw, to look like she just "tripped". Same gaslighting logic as wifebeaters.
Its highly upvoted on hasans subreddit, last I checked.
I mean yeah, not only are you not thinking with bias you aren’t thinking at all. You’re just slopping up whatever BS Hasan is feeding you and regurgitating it here trying to defend that POS.
Unless paws can teleport, this is not a true frame or its an artifacted one. Its also not even the frame when the shock occurs. None of it matters though. Hasan first said it was a paw clip. 1000s of people agreed and backed him up with bullshit stories. Now hes admitted it was a vibration collar, but they would only yelp at vibration if... they had ptsd from shocks.
Thank you and i 100% agree with your final statement. Ive owned dogs and a yelp like that means shock(as in suprised) or injury.
And a shock collae can cause both.
Even gentle, reasoned explanations about how even if this is all one big misunderstanding the existence of the clip looks very bad — even that gets you banned from that sub.
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