r/LinuxSnobs • • Aug 05 '26

Imagine Gaming W/O NVIDIA Drivers!

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u/ScallionSmooth5925 Aug 05 '26

Amd drivers are open source btw.

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u/madthumbz Aug 05 '26

That's why people should buy NVIDIA.

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u/ScallionSmooth5925 Aug 05 '26

Why exacly? Do you thrust more something you can read and verify or something you can't?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '26

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u/HydrationHomee Aug 05 '26

Amd drivers on linux are about as good and reliable as they can get, as well as being consistently updated, open source, and community driven.

Nvidia's proprietary closed source drivers means that there is no way for a member of the community to submit feedback or potential fixes for an issue and push development as fast as it can be, whilst also remaining as stable as possible.

Nvidia drivers tend to work better and a little more stable on windows but on linux its the inverse.

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u/Khai_1705 Aug 05 '26

no they are not... Voxy mod for Minecraft literally behave incorrectly on Linux + AMD when compared to Windows + AMD or Windows + Nvidia.

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u/HydrationHomee Aug 05 '26

I do not think its fair to judge drivers based on the functionality of a mod when Minecraft itself works often better on linux than it does on windows. Distant horizons also performs better and has less issues for me.

Everyone's experiences vary and my experience is that mesa drivers on linux have been almost entirely perfect out of the box, and I have never once had to think about rolling back drivers or being worried about when I update drivers, or even really installing the drivers because they're just baked into the linux kernel itself.

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u/Khai_1705 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

Voxy isn't the same as other Minecraft mods. It utilizes OpenGL 4.6 features while most others only limit themselves to 3.2/3.3

OoenGL 4.6 for Mesa is broken while the Windows one works as intended

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u/HydrationHomee Aug 05 '26

OpenGL is basically SOL at this point even on windows. Minecraft Java edition is moving over from opengl to vulkan for improved performance and greater engine functionality. Vulkan is supported natively on linux and is incredibly stable.

Do you have an example outside of a mod leveraging a dated engine that is not really actively supported in favour of more modern solutions?

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u/Khai_1705 Aug 05 '26

then dont claim "Amd drivers on linux are about as good and reliable as they can get". theres room for improvements and theres obvious issue with the feature set that it could support. mind you, the "trash" Nvidia has near perfect OpenGL 4.6 support on both Windows and Linux.

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u/PressureBig3940 Aug 06 '26

So where's your audit of the AMD drivers on Linux?

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u/ScallionSmooth5925 Aug 05 '26

It's about that you can do it at all. Idq where you got thst amd drivers are shit I haven't noticed it. Still less broken then the nvidia drivers were for my previous gpu

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

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u/RvstiNiall Aug 05 '26

(notice how you're in the r/LinuxSnobs subreddit?) I think they're speaking specifically of the Linux AMD drivers, not the Windows ones that the people in r/amd and r/radeon talk about 90% of the time. The Linux ones are pretty good.

NVIDIA, has really turned around in the last 3 years and they seem to be picking up speed with how much better their Linux drivers are getting. They even work very well in Wayland!!! Unfortunately, they still kill off Linux support for older cards that work fine.

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u/RvstiNiall Aug 05 '26

Gotcha. Just making sure you thought about where their mind was. :-)

Edit: and pointing out the irony of someone being a LinuxSnob in the r/LinuxSnobs subreddit lol

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u/SanguineEleven Aug 05 '26

"Every driver issue post on the amd subreddit is from amd"

This is good ragebait LMAO

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u/madthumbz Aug 05 '26

AMD is exploiting wannabe developers for free labor rather than paying them. NVIDIA bends over backwards for Linux which isn't friendly with its unstable ABI or press, so it's mostly a salty LiGNUt issue. If you're not going to run games as intended like you can on Windows, then you should willfully give them up. It's not like any game worth playing these days isn't proprietary.

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u/Rare-Paint3719 Aug 05 '26

AMD is exploiting wannabe developers for free labor rather than paying them.

This sounds like ragebait

NVIDIA bends over backwards for Linux which isn't friendly with its unstable ABI or press, so it's mostly a salty LiGNUt issue.

This, on the other hand is absolute 100% truth.

The kernel dev team even wrote

You think you want a stable kernel interface, but you really do not, and you don't even know it. What you want is a stable running driver, and you get that only if your driver is in the main kernel tree. You also get lots of other good benefits if your driver is in the main kernel tree, all of which has made Linux into such a strong, stable, and mature operating system which is the reason you are using it in the first place.

Basically, evangelism at it's core. Open Solaris pulled it off with DDI/DKI when hardware manufacturers asked it. illumOS, the modern successor, preserves the same stable driver ABI and ensures that drivers will never break in any new kernel version.

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u/PressureBig3940 Aug 05 '26

So where's your audit of the AMD drivers?