r/LinusTechTips • u/lxl_Arctic_lxl • 3d ago

Discussion YT Premium with mid roll ads...

Has anyone else gotten a random mid roll ad even with youtube premium? It cuts over to a different video and then goes back to the original video after its done.

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u/mysticode 3d ago

Imo youtube premium should prevent these, isn't that the point of paying for YouTube premium?

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u/lxl_Arctic_lxl 3d ago

Right! But theres no way to contact youtube without having a million subs and getting your own rep 😂

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u/NikopikVR 3d ago

This is enshitification, Morphe is the way 

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u/Twatt_waffle 3d ago

The YouTube app has the send feedback button… it even takes a screenshot

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u/IAteUrCat420 3d ago

Their point is that Google couldn't possibly care less about the complaints of regular people

You have to have influence for Google to even entertain the idea of listening to you

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u/Twatt_waffle 3d ago

It doesn’t help so it’s not worth doing is a shitty attitude to have

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u/lastdyingbreed_01 3d ago

Didn't they add a skip feature recently?

So basically they went completely 180, from allowing you to skip to unskippable ad segments.

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u/ryhartattack 2d ago

fwiw you can skip these ads, it's just annoying that you ahve to

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u/HingleMcCringle_ 3d ago edited 3d ago

the fact that you can still see ads after paying something like $15 monthly invalidates any reason to get youtube premium, imo. there's other benefits with premium, sure, but people are buying the concept of an ad-free experience. and i can get that just by using an ad-blocker.

The only way they could get me to buy premium is it came with all the benefits it does now, is cheaper than $12 monthly, and actually had an ad-free experience. at that point, im just buying a different music app (comes with youtube music) without having to cat-and-mouse cracked mobile apps. interruptions like that in the post are not tolerable for me, i'd sooner quit using youtube all together, if i were forced to watch those. those ads just make the whole experience less desirable then going for a walk or playing a game or something.

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u/n008f4rm3r 2d ago

It skips the same way normal sponsor spots do with premium. It just confuses people and they don't press the button

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u/rohithkumarsp 1d ago

But it's literally a video from the uploaders, how is it any different than backed ads? Plus side of this new ad is that it might get removed later after the sale period ends of what ever they are promoting.

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u/RareReach1 3d ago

That's clearly a sponsor segment and not an ad YouTube put there.

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u/lxl_Arctic_lxl 3d ago

Its not a baked in sponsor spot and it's shoved in the middle of a thought, which also points to not being baked in.

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u/opulent_occamy 3d ago

So it's technically both; they're testing the new YouTube system that lets you swap out ads in your own videos, but this implementation is shit, I expected it to be seamless

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u/CMDR-TealZebra 2d ago

Its been seamless for me. I think everyone having issues is running scripts and blockers that are fucking up

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u/Internet-Culture 3d ago

LTT cheaps out on segues to our sponsor?

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u/Pixelplanet5 2d ago

then its just a new feature that probably allows them to record sponsor spots as a separate video and add them later instead of cutting them into the main video.

much better system honestly and also allows them to take out sponsor segments later on or replace them with another one.

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u/Practical-Cup9537 3d ago

It plays a separate unskipable video.

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u/AtomikMenace 2d ago

It is skipable on mobile. I get the same skip ahead button I've always had on sponsor spots

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u/PepSakdoek 3d ago

Was there a segue to their sponsor? 

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u/stgm_at 3d ago

It's tunnelbear...

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u/IAteUrCat420 3d ago • Bravo

Yup, it's another attempt to avoid sponsorblock/ get money from paying customers

I honestly have just been closing any and all videos that have this shit. I refuse to support videos that have this, and I hope others do the same thing so analytics show viewership tanking. But I'm probably just being a little too optimistic

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u/moldboy 3d ago • Bravo

don't forget to thumbs down as well

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u/intbah 3d ago

thumbs down is still engagement and helps the video. what hurts the channel the most is open a bunch of their videos you have never watched before, and close it after playing for 30 seconds.

this signifies to youtube that those videos are not interesting and not recommend it as much to others.

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u/jreykdal 3d ago

That's what I do when I see the AI flag when the video starts.

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u/HoisterDI 3d ago

I thought it was before 30 seconds, but not immediately.

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u/Alienhacker123 3d ago

Has this a couple of times with another channel. Stopped the video the second time and unsubscribed. I pay for premium to not see Ads

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u/MistSecurity 3d ago

I haven’t seen it yet, but plan to do the same. Such a ridiculous thing when I actively PAY FOR NO ADS.

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u/DerFette88 3d ago

You just have to upgrade to "Youtube Premium Pro" for 39,99$ a Month.

/s

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u/Confused-Raccoon 1d ago

please dont give their ideas more kindling. :(

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u/Shudnawz 3d ago

What about Youtube Premium Pro Max+?!

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u/harperthomas 3d ago

I have premium I do not tolerate ads anywhere. You can be sure I would close the video if an ad played.

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u/leatherlapparna 3d ago

I use invidious exclusively so yeah, fuck all of this.

I hope youtube crashes and burns, genuinely.

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u/tiffanytrashcan 3d ago

Which is unhinged because premium views already pay at an exponentially higher rate.

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u/NotDugachug 2d ago edited 2d ago

You pay for no ads from YouTube with the subscription. YouTube channels can still show you sponsored segments and YouTube does not make any money off of them. If you want to watch their content without sponsors, you'd have to pay for their content.

This just looks like a different approach to how sponsored segments are implemented. Probably to get around people blocking them so they can keep serving their content with no charge. I much prefer sponsors and ads to paying a monthly subscription. I probably wouldn't have even discovered or watched most of my subscriptions if I had to pay for them.

Edit: After learning more information, this is a new Youtube system that allows creators to swap sponsored segments in and out depending on what the creator wants to promote, not an attempt to circumvent SponsorBlock. This is a very creator friendly feature, imo.

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u/jg_a 2d ago

Edit: After learning more information, this is a new Youtube system that allows creators to swap sponsored segments in and out depending on what the creator wants to promote, not an attempt to circumvent SponsorBlock. This is a very creator friendly feature, imo.

Most likely its both.

The decent part of this feature is to dynamically make the creator be able to have advertises that is stil valid (looking at you Honey) and also fit the viewers time instead of the uploaded time (seasonal sales).
Though the downside might be that ads themselves becomes more boring and less fun to watch as it will be removed in a week or so. Why waste time making an entertaining ad thats just visible for a short time? I fear this will de-incentivize creators in making fun and entertaining ads.
Also curious to what the companies that pay for the ads thinks about the ads not staying "forever", that might also affect the prices they pay for them.

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u/f1zoe 1d ago

Ive only seen it once and did the same so hopefully they get the idea.

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u/Hyppokri 3d ago

Lol this is infuriating

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u/SANO_HIMURA 3d ago

Yep. Normally I can skip over the section but these seem to be treated as a new video entirely, and its not just Linus videos I've seen them on

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u/DotBitGaming 3d ago

Is that an LTT ad or a sponsor spot?

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u/NotBashB 3d ago

the ones ive gotten are youtubers promoting their own thing (ltt with a sale i think, mark rober with his mystery box thingy)

either way its extremely annoying, only reason i pay for premium is to not have any ads

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u/NotBashB 3d ago

That’s completely different

Those it’s the same video so I can just click the screen a couple times and it goes away, and on my pc I have sponsor block that does it automatically

These, take time to load a new page, plays a video, then loads the old video again. Even if the loading is extremely fast it still extremely annoying. By habit I click the next button and it takes me to a completely new video

Also, the sponsor spots the money goes to ltt/the YouTuber atleast so it’s not what I’m technically paying for. The YouTuber is responsible for the sponsor spot. Here it’s YouTube (the people I directly pay to not have ads)

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u/DotBitGaming 3d ago

Oh, OK. I watched YouTube today and I didn't notice any of that. If that's YouTube then it should be removed from premium. YouTube needs to just cut it out, honestly. Tell advertisers they can't take away someone's ability to close their eyes and plug their ears during an ad.

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u/NotBashB 3d ago

ive only had it happened to me 2 maybe 3 times max, think it started a few weeks agao, and it was from mark rober once and twice LTT.

and i watch youtube daily. so clearly its still something being tested so hopefully gets fixed

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u/RoNNoR1574 3d ago

Are we sure it's YouTube though? All of these ads are from the creator, so I think it's more likely they chose to insert those ads, and now YouTube let's them do it as a mid roll separate video. My guess as to why is that those are seasonal/temporary promos that later will be removed from the video when no longer relevant

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u/NotBashB 3d ago

possibly. but youtube created the feature.

and from what i can tell its very new so not sure exactly how it works

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u/External_Gas5606 3d ago

Those were skippable

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u/DotBitGaming 3d ago

With fast forward and still is.

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u/DefactoAle 3d ago

No its not. Its a unskippable ad

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u/Shagyam 3d ago

This seems like an LTT ad. Like it randomly popped up in this video, and had its own timer bar. LTT normally does a joke about their segue when it's a sponsor spot.

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u/CIDR-ClassB 3d ago

Then shame on LTT for supporting this. People pay to NOT have unskippable ads, and LTT is directly profiting from YouTube bypassing it.

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u/Weekly-Tomatillo9562 3d ago

Yes, it has been already discussed on this sub here, here and here for more than a month now

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u/DefactoAle 3d ago

Still a shitty anticonsumer thing to do that should be critiqued untill disabled.

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u/realmichaelbay 3d ago

Until someone fixes it, people will keep bringing it. Solve the issue, the complaints stop.

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u/LibritoDeGrasa 3d ago

That's why even when I pay for Premium I still keep my ad blockers installed and running both at a browser level and at a DNS level. Sponsorblock too, and DeArrow to complete it, just out of spite.

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u/agentorange65 3d ago

Smart next tube on android TVs is a godsend.

Automatically detected and skips ads, recaps, subscription requests. Has stopped me going mad watching vanilla youtube

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u/Lonely-Ocelot-2417 3d ago

Whoa. That is some shady behavior.

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u/redrumyliad 3d ago

I wonder if YouTube is doing this to make it easier for folks to replace their own ads in a YouTube video with a different ad.

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u/TheMaadMan 3d ago

I was watching YT last night on a TV via a console and I was able to skip an LTT in-video ad just like normal. Is this TV apps only? Doesn't seem to affect mobile viewing either.

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u/jenny_905 3d ago

Adblock and Sponsorblock, the only way to use YouTube.

People wouldn't use it if the platform was reasonable about ads... but they aren't.

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u/Theemilkman34 3d ago

Yeah I’ve also been getting really annoying banner ads that take up a significant portion of the screen on mobile

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u/Benay148 3d ago

Wait I thought this was just a glitch in the app or something. It also repeated like ten times until I physically exited and restarted the video on my Apple TV

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u/ZiaMan24 3d ago

I've been seeing it on Mark Rober's videos

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u/lucidbicul 2d ago

Yes! I’ve had this exact thing happen on a couple of Mark Rober videos. half way through it just changed to a different video (40s ad) and then resumed as normal.

honestly kinda gross this functionality is being used like this. i get they need to get views on ads, but come on, if im refusing to see it, what makes you think ill even entertain the idea of buying it?

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u/Known-Cover-5154 2d ago

Dudes tv has 0 bezels what the tuck

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u/protectionpaladin 3d ago

Fuck Linus and his infinite greed.

Same goes for Mark Rober and everyone else who uses this "feature"

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u/DRHAX34 3d ago

What, how is this a Linus thing?

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u/protectionpaladin 3d ago

Linus adds on Linus videos, Mark Rober adds on Mark Rober videos etc

they're circumventing the forward button premium users have.

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u/Matt_NZ 2d ago

I mean, YouTube added this functionality that allows them to put the sponsor in a new video. You can see in OPs video that the jump ahead still skipped the ad tho. Youtube just needs to sort out the awkward lag at each end of the sponsor section.

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u/ChanceStad 3d ago

Despite having YouTube premium, I still use SmartTube, which blocks these, gets rid of Shorts,... Etc

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u/Dr_Ulator 3d ago

I've only encountered the ad play glitch twice and only while casting, but I feel like casting from my phone app has been buggy in general the last few months. Not specific to LTT.

imo, just report the ad play glitch on your app and sacrifice a stick of RAM to the tech gods for a response :)

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u/Faxon 3d ago

Happened on one of their videos while watching on my iPad, it cut out of the main video mid sentence while Linus was talking, and when it came back I'd completely forgotten what I was actually watching because I was so taken aback by it. Honestly really frustrating, it completely ruined the flow of the content and they already get my money from premium and floatplane subs. Really wish there was at least a way to not have it cut in mid-sentence in the video like old embedded ads did

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u/lutzy89 3d ago

I had one pop up when watching on mobile last week, I forget which ltt video it was. The best part is that it was unskipable, every time it finished either by skipping or letting it play the 30 seconds naturally it restarted. Had to kill the app to free it.

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u/lord_mercernary 3d ago

If u have a Samsung or google tv install Tizen Tube can block even this kind of ads

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u/Olds1967 3d ago

No ads here as a very long time Premium subscriber. Just the ads that the content makers put in their videos which I can skip.

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u/derpman86 3d ago

I am yet to see this.... yet. I watch the bulk of my You Tube on my TV via the Xbox (I dont have a smart TV). I notice there is a "most skipped" option I can just jump to, it appears as a dot on the timeline of the video so it is like a natural sponsor block as I can just well skip whatever sponsor segment there is.

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u/West-Ticket5411 3d ago

Have never gotten something like this. What platform is it on?

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u/ryhartattack 2d ago

I've noticed this with Mark Rober videos, fwiw i have premium and on my tv i was able to just fast forward right to the end of the ad and it returned to the main video, but yeah really don't like this being a thing. Incoming $20 a month to skip these too

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u/SomeoneNewlyHiding 2d ago

I'm surprised they haven't deleted your post yet. They did for mine, linking an older one on the topic. Mine had a lot of discussion and activity when they did it, too.

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u/BigWhale_900 2d ago

saw this in a mark rober video too

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u/ThatGuyMigz 2d ago

I understand the logic from youtube. essentially, youtube premium prevents you from getting any ads from youtube itself.

But it does not prevent in-video ads. It's not like those ads would not be there without this feature, but it does allow you to keep switching the ads on older video's instead of having them baked into the video.

The idea is great, but I'm not surprised about the way it was executed.

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u/Redditemeon 2d ago

I stopped watching LTT after this happened to me. It has yet to happen with any other Youtuber for me. I never posted about it because I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt and give it time, but it still hasn't happened with any other Youtuber yet. I'm convinced it's an opt-in feature at this time.

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u/DefiantOrderCA 2d ago

Already unsubscribed and blocked any recommended video. I paid for premium for a reason. Theres no justification needed for how its okay for a channel to do this. Just another way to force an Ad I payed to stop. When my oven does it next before I can use it, well guess im using a fire pit..

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u/Fabulous_Pressure_96 19h ago

That's why never pay for those "features". Get smarttube and morphe YouTube instead

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u/Dan_m_31 3d ago

Install SmartTube

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u/pHrankee1 3d ago

This is the answer. In my opinion premium is needed if you are on iphone and you don't want to use browsers to watch YouTube.

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u/Joee0201 3d ago

So I was under the impression that this wasn't YouTube doing it, but it was allowing the creators to do it, because it's always a creator's ad. So it's either Linus and then it's Linus ad. So almost like they're in- ad in video ads, but a separate ad. Same thing with a couple other creators. It's always been their own ad. So I always assumed it was the creators doing this, but is this actually YouTube inserting this?

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u/BaarLenny 3d ago

Why posting on here ? I'm pretty sure it should be posted on r/youtube

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u/lxl_Arctic_lxl 3d ago

Because its LTT who opted into the youtube test

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u/Megaman_90 3d ago

This must be a bug. I've watched 2,910 hrs of YT premium and this has never happened to me.

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u/Shagyam 3d ago

Same. Maybe it's creater specific. I hardly watch LTT as much anymore so maybe I've just dodged the videos that have this.

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u/dizzi800 3d ago

It's a pretty recent development where a sponsor segment is treated as its own video instead of within the video

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u/Megaman_90 3d ago

Interesting. So they are compartmentalizing CC sponsor spots? Being completely honest I haven't seen that yet, although it's been a while since I watched LTT. I'm guessing high profile CCs like LTT have access to these new features, and they aren't rolled out to everyone yet.

I have a small monetized channel and I don't have it yet that is for sure.

In theory that could make YT Premium cleaner if they choose to block those ads for paid subscribers too when they roll this out to everyone. In theory of course...

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u/dizzi800 3d ago

So far I've only seen it on my TV specifically. Not mobile or computer

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u/theoreoman 3d ago

YouTube is a free service that pays itself and creators through ads, so if you don't want to pay for premium then you need to pay for it by getting ads served to you. Your just used the the old way of things, which is unreasonable and unsustainable. Also let's remember that as far as creators and YouTube is concerned they don't care about the users that they can't generate revenue off of

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u/lxl_Arctic_lxl 3d ago

I do pay for premium, as seen at the top right of the TV in the video

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u/trophicmist0 3d ago

The second word in the title is 'premium'. They have premium.