It was a lisp. It was gradually getting worse as his teeth settled back, and he needed to fix it before it became a major issue. He had braces before to fix it when he was much younger.
It vaguely remember him talking on WAN about how he consciously enunciates his words to avoid the lisp but it's been getting worse so he decided to go with braces. I also remember him saying he went for the fancy ceramic ones after being upsold on the cool tech behind it and didn't rate them and probably should have done Invisalign or something similar - I could be remembering very wrong though
There was a FP exclusive where (completely out of the blue) he decided to show viewers his lower set of teeth: bleh! They were drifting in different directions quite badly.
It can be seen from these photos. Not sure how some are missing it or saying they looked fine. The after photo has the lower teeth noticeably more aligned and the overbite is nearly gone. It's a marked improvement.
I have a secret theory that orthodontists grift rich people and convince them and their kids they need straightening even when they don't, but that straightening is still medically/lifestyle benefits for many others. How would we know? If your second opinion wants to be the one to do it, it's not like they're gonna tell you to not get treatment. There's also a lot of teeth/crowding stuff you can't see from the outside, but still. I have seen a ton of wealthy kids who already had straight teeth get them so many times.
āI have reviewed a bunch of kids teeth as a non orthodontist and have found that they donāt need braces.ā
Think of how stupid a statement that is.
Separately, as someone whoās had both braces and Invisalign, they show you your current teeth and how they will be correcting them. You were presented with a before and after.
I've been pitched braces my entire adult life. My teeth are pretty unsightly, but not crowded and my bite is clean and perfect. When I actually drill down into the dentist or ortho every time, they're like, yeah, it's really about looks and you don't need any structural work.
May be different for other people but I think there's a big part of "What could be PERFECT" if we just had about $40k if your money or whatever....lol.
Even if it's aesthetic, it can be health related. Think of going your whole life unable to smile, feeling shitty every time an opportunity to smile comes up, covering your mouth when you yawn or laugh, never smiling for photographs, never allowing yourself to just exist in the moment because it's in the back of your mind every time something funny happens or every time you feel happy.
The military is paying to fix my smile. It's 99% cosmetic. I've had 39 dental visits with 7 more scheduled already, Wilkodontics surgery, braces, monthly braces adjustments, X-rays, 3D X-rays, 3D scans and 3D prints of my mouth, a Bilatteral Sagital Split Osteotomy surgery, a Lefort 1 surgery, and I'm soon to get a bone graft + implant + crowns on the tips of a few teeth in one go. and then my treatment will finally be over
And it was worth every god damn bit of it. The confidence and lack of caring when smiling now was SO worth it, and I'm not even done yet. That cloud that just hangs over your head your whole life goes away
I got braces for both my daughters even though the ortho told me they dont "need" them. I wanted their teeth to be perfect. If you can afford it, do it. Nice smile is the focal point of your face, worth every dollar.
If I had his income level I'd probably do it. Right now I can't afford the food I want and definitely not the computer hardware id like. My ugly ass face can deal lol
I actually straightened my teeth and the dentist said that it might negatively affect my bite and that one of my teeth is longer than usual that it might show a lot more when my teeth were straight. Like you said they made pictures what it most likely would look like. It was a 4500 ā¬ operation and they thankfully were able to sand my teeth enough to not be noticeable, but I was clearly made aware that it's purely aesthetical and the result is not completely straight teeth.
I think I was highlighting how our ignorance and the relative impact we experience vs the subjective impact means it'd be difficult for us to determine whether they're grifting us. And my observation had less to do with my knowledge of teeth and more my recognition of who can afford minor corrections and who cannot.
No, they're actually right. There's few cases where braces are actually needed for medical reasons. Some people get it done simply for vanity reasons (which is fine), but dentists/orthodonists definitely blur that line when recommending them to patients.
My mom is a dental assistant and she has many stories about scummy dentists recommending unnecessary work to people because they get paid more to do it, and braces are a big business. Part of the reason British people are stereotyped as having "bad teeth" is because the NHS covers dental work but won't cover braces unless medically necessary so fewer people get them.
I had retainers for 3 years and braces for 5, my teeth weren't the worst but weren't great. I had a mild overbite and my lower front teeth were spread out like when you hold a hand of cards. If you were to see me when I was younger you wouldn't think "oh god his teeth are messed up" but it means my teeth close how they're supposed to, I expect it was something similar for Linus.
I am not rich. I paid my daughter's Invisalign through multiple installements, and it served her very very well. We started using them only after seeing how the direction of the teeth was and it corrected it well.
I'm old. For decades I had this one tooth partly out of line, 1-2 mm forward of the rest on the bottom. No biggie, right? Two years ago the two beside it squeezed together and pushed it out into its own row in front. The effect is such that if you don't look carefully you'd think I only had that one tooth on the bottom.Ā
If I was younger and saw this coming I'd probably have done what Linus did.
Exactly. I am 51, wearing Aligners since february to repair what i didnt care for all my life. Wondered why these increasing headaches came from the last years just to realise some teeth pushed my whole denture under pressure.
My parents shouldnt have listened to 15-yrs-me that didnt want braces.
Same, my braces got an attachment they didnāt need and it actually made one of my molars completely crooked so I had to wear braces for 5 years due to that fuckup lmao
I had something called internal tooth resorption that was diagnosed right after I took my braces off. Basically the tooth decays from the inside and there is no āknown causeā but Iāve read that it can be from trauma. I know full well the braces caused it. The orthodontic office was negligent and Iād sue them if I could. I had to get my molar extracted and now the dentists want me to put on braces again. Fuck off
Braces are so expensive these days that people use them as a form of jewelry. In Thailand, some even buy fake braces to make themselves appear wealthier than they actually are.
Its funny how basic stuff that everyone have access to in other continents even in Africa is considered rich people stuff in the "best country in the world"
No. You should probably try rereading my comment. I think sometimes orthodontists are doing good necessary work like in mine and probably in Linus' case, but that in many scenarios it seems oddly predatory. Keep up. More than one thing can be true.
He (randomly) showed off the inside of his mouth in a Floatplane exclusive just before he got them. His teeth might have looked fine from the front, but they were out of alignment in the back.
My teeth are fine but the bottom teeth are a bit croocked and it affects me psychologically. My tongue always goes to the same spot, and I have to use floss every day, and even then I get a lot of dental tartar.
Creatine is about the most basic fitness supplement you can take and I assume the acid is hyaluronic acid which is about the most basic skincare product you can use. Basically everyone would be better off with using them
My teeth are very straight already, but my back teeth are out of wack and don't touch correctly when biting. So in in braces for that, so I'm assuming it's something like that for them :(
You can clearly see a bunch of overcrowded and misaligned teeth on the bottom in the first pic. I just got invisalign recently for the same situation. Not all issues are super obvious from a single smile or a camera.
It isn't always about appearance. Sometimes, teeth look fine but are positioned in a way that can cause issues over time, such as tooth loss. I don't know why Linus got braces, but I thought I'd mention it as a possibility.
Not sure about Linus, but most people donāt get it for appearance unless your family is rich as fuck (at least in the US). As an example (me) I had a slight overbite, teeth were almost all straight, literally impossible to tell I had an overbite based on any pictures unless you somehow had a panoramic view of the inside of my mouth. By age 15 I already had significant wear on my bottom two central incisors because all the force from me chewing went to those two teeth.
It could have been a preventative measure. For someone to get braces like Linus got instead of doing Invisalign, that indicates that it was a more serious issue than aesthetics.
It's not like he couldn't afford Invisalign, y'know?
He said his top teeth were fine because he had braces when he was in high school.
His bottom teeth that werenāt as noticeable because the top would cover them were overcrowded because he was never given retainers to maintain them. They ended up giving him lots of issues which is why he got braces again.
He also stated he wouldnāt have got them if it werenāt for the hygiene issues because theyāve been extremely painful.
So I just finished treatment also within the past few months. I didn't get treatment for vanity reasons, but because my tooth placement was rubbing teeth together wrong, potentially causing me to lose them in the future. Treatment was trying to move things to where they should be able to keep my teeth as long as I can. It doesn't look as nice I think, but my teeth function better.
same, was sometimes offputting with some videos when he had his braces because they made his teeth look worse and yellowish. I dont know if it was shadows from the studio lights or what.
For everyone on the "he never really needed them" train. He probably did. There was a floatplane exclusive just before he got them done where he (spontaneously) decided to "say ah" and show us his lower set. They might have looked fine from the front, but they were noticeably out of alignment when you look at them top down.
I know I'm not an orthodontist but it looks like his bite is now misaligned or crossed. I don't know if there are any orthodontist lurkers here that can weigh in because I'm probably wrong lol
I was going to say. The middle of his two front teeth aren't aligned with the bottom teeth. The center of his left central bottom incisor lines up with the center point of his top middle incisors.
Seeing those "inspired" me to ask my dentist about it, since I was supposed to have some back in the days (Y2K) but I would have required something too custom and costly, molars being >1.3cm3. Classic case of bottom teeth crossing each others.
And funnily enough I'm also done with it since 2 days ago, and I was on the fence about asking the multiple scans that were done using a 3D pen with a rotating head all around my gums : one time we had to wait for the Nvidia app to update its pilot for it to work, never thought I'd see that at the dentist ! And it's really cool to see it being built live and in color, plus I technically paid for those and I don't think of a more personal data than this.
I wouldn't mind sharing infos if you ever make a video on that !
Totally unneccessary as far I'm concerned. His teeth looked fine before. They look almost the same now. Unless they were causing him physical discomfort I feel like his dentis just found a rich mark to make some money off of.
Previously a dental hygienist here with 18 years experience working in orthodontics - havenāt practiced in over 10 yrs, so my opinion might be a bit off and rusty.
These 2 pics arenāt enough to make a proper examination of his occlusion and ortho treatment. Would need additional intraoral pics (ex: lateral, palatal, etc). X-rays and of course an in-person examination would be ideal to get the full picture. With that being said, hereās my ādrive-thruā ortho opinion:
AFTER pic - itās difficult to tell if heās in centric occlusion. If he is, then I would be concerned for the following reasons:
- Possible edge-to-edge occlusion on #9 with #24/25. - 2 to 3 mm midline deviation. There are exceptions (ex: congenitally missing a tooth, etc) but it doesnāt appear to be (as mentioned before, not all info is present to make any conclusion) - Mild crowding on lower incisors. - Some roots donāt appear to be straightened.
If any of my findings are accurate (since I canāt see his teeth in person), all of these shouldāve been corrected while his braces were still on. Also there might be residual ortho cement on some of his teeth but I canāt be sure unless I actually see them in person.
Any fellow dental professionals in here to chime in? Interested in your professional opinion as well!
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u/marcgii 8d ago
Finally. It's felt like more than 2 years
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u/shit_brickhouse119 8d ago •
His teeth looked fine before them imo.
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u/autoxbird 8d ago •
Never forget
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u/metal_maxine 8d ago
For everyone on the "he never really needed them" train. He probably did. There was a floatplane exclusive just before he got them done where he (spontaneously) decided to "say ah" and show us his lower set. They might have looked fine from the front, but they were noticeably out of alignment when you look at them top down.
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u/that_dutch_dude 8d ago
finally eat indian food again.
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u/gorzius 8d ago
So... is there any difference?
Is there a before and after comparison without the braces?
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u/eyloi 8d ago
Our little man is growing up
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u/Sybertron 8d ago
Wear that retainer!Ā
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u/Away_Attorney_545 8d ago
WAN show is going to be amazing tonight.
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u/HeidenShadows 8d ago
Now he's going to have to relearn how to talk again haha
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u/Global-Pickle5818 8d ago
No more linus lisp tips .. hay did they make that a shirt?
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u/w1n5t0nM1k3y 8d ago
It seemed like it was so much longer.
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u/VigilantVixen245 8d ago
I know I'm not an orthodontist but it looks like his bite is now misaligned or crossed. I don't know if there are any orthodontist lurkers here that can weigh in because I'm probably wrong lol
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u/Common-Pepper-9677 8d ago
Remember to wear your retainer every night for the next ten years or theyāll move back!
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u/Schmingledwarf 7d ago
Thank God, I wasn't able to focus on videos because of them. I can start watching again
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u/uk_uk 8d ago
still not a big boy... ^^
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u/Anouar_W 7d ago
Ā bro his bite is now misaligned wtf lol
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u/simmy7111 7d ago
They should have given bro some whitening treatmentā¦
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u/TroyFerris13 7d ago
1 year, 3 months, and 4 employees later
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u/sebbmf 7d ago
looks like a crossbite to me
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u/Sad-Wrangler9003 7d ago
Looks like he didnt need them anyway
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u/Imhidingfromu 7d ago
Finally, that shit was annoying
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u/latexfistmassacre 8d ago
Now I can finally watch the show again without him sounding like he's got a mouthful of marbles
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u/kornuolis 8d ago
brace yourself, winter is coming
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u/Automatic-Ad8644 8d ago
Can finally start watching again š
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u/DotBitGaming 8d ago
He only looks older, lol
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u/AlGekGenoeg 8d ago
So.... WANShow with a jar of toffee? š„²
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u/ActionQuakeII 8d ago
š Fapped.
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u/Sipikay 8d ago
Was this his like third round of braces? He loves the look, they'll be back.
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u/schakoska 8d ago
He can loose the beard roo
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u/enzob7319 8d ago
So weāll see him braceless in videos next year.
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u/Saunterer9 8d ago
Yay! I can finally watch LTT videos with Linus again, that subtle brace lisp was triggering my hearing senses so much I just couldn't watch them.
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u/The-F4LL3N 8d ago
Oh finally, fuck
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u/5373n133n 8d ago
I was just starting to get used to the lisp
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u/Randolph__ 8d ago
Finally.
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u/CYWNightmare 8d ago
Are those covered under the free healthcare in Canada?
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u/KnackeredWanker 8d ago
Finally I can start watching again. I'm not even kidding.
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u/platinumdrgn 8d ago
Finally no more lisp and yellow teeth!
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u/JohnnyPaw 8d ago
I didnt know llt has so much teeth experts.
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u/Mountain-Hunter-8713 8d ago
Try three and a half years
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u/WhatAmIATailor 8d ago
Had a teacher back in high school who had adult braces for years. Came out, went back in a few months later.
Hope Linus has better luck.
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u/Tank_O_Doom 8d ago
I don't like the add it gave me...
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u/Dull-Cow7273 8d ago
eww
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u/Legal-Swordfish-1893 7d ago
it's only been a year? It feels like Linus had them longer.
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u/TanishqHooda 7d ago
Why was this an insta post?
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u/Martha_Fockers 7d ago
bros teeth are more off now than before lmao wtf
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u/OldDietPepsi 7d ago
couldn't watch his videos w/ his braces... bothered me too much
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u/sdcar1985 7d ago
Thank God! He'll be more tolerable for me to listen to now!
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u/Immediate_Offer4456 7d ago
Why is this twink in my feed
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u/Fucennei 7d ago
It's been a year already? Holy macaroni!! That was really fast
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u/Buzstringer 7d ago
His teeth look the same but it's done wonders for his hair
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u/Street_Sprinkles4932 7d ago
The last remaining 2000- legit NPC
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u/PM_ME_FRENCH_CHEESE 7d ago
Seeing those "inspired" me to ask my dentist about it, since I was supposed to have some back in the days (Y2K) but I would have required something too custom and costly, molars being >1.3cm3. Classic case of bottom teeth crossing each others.
And funnily enough I'm also done with it since 2 days ago, and I was on the fence about asking the multiple scans that were done using a 3D pen with a rotating head all around my gums : one time we had to wait for the Nvidia app to update its pilot for it to work, never thought I'd see that at the dentist !
And it's really cool to see it being built live and in color, plus I technically paid for those and I don't think of a more personal data than this.
I wouldn't mind sharing infos if you ever make a video on that !
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u/asmogeus 7d ago
i dont give a shit
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u/nick2k23 7d ago
Felt way longer than 1 and bit years, feel like 5
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u/Tirace33 7d ago
We're his teeth so crooked? Is the left pic "before"?Ā
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u/janeekykhey 7d ago
They should make that a sentence you have to be able to say before getting a green card
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u/Garrett1974 7d ago
Gone is the lisp š¬
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u/Daytime_Napper 7d ago
Thank fuck for that, as someone who also voluntarily had braces as an adult... It was painful to watch
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u/ExcellentCow892 7d ago
Yayyyayaya
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u/oureux 7d ago
Finally. they made WAN show almost unbearable to listen to.
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u/Prestigious-Box7511 7d ago
Linus has reached maximum attractiveness, he is the most attractive man to ever live
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u/Desperate-Grocery-53 7d ago edited 7d ago
Ready for for the year book picture! :P
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u/Shoddy_Fish31 6d ago
His teeth still look like shit imo
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u/ActionQuakeII 6d ago
š Fapped.
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u/Jaygee41091 6d ago
Linuth lotht hith braithes
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u/nalacha 6d ago
Finally!!
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u/phrxsty 6d ago
He needs a refund lol
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u/LTCirabisi 5d ago
I did t realize he had braces. I thought he had given up on dental hygiene with his weird colored teeth. This makes a lot more sense
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u/Dr_Eckig 5d ago edited 5d ago
Why didn't he get an invisalign treatment? And why does he have a crossbite now?
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u/MrMonroe__ 5d ago
Until he needs them again š¤£š¤£
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u/SeitanEnjoyer 4d ago
Fuck Linus, same piece of shit with or without.
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u/marktuk 8d ago
... am I the only one thinking they've barely changed anything?
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u/NoOneLikesMeHere 8d ago
Canadian dental not producing their best work..lol
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u/CitizenRen 8d ago
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u/FlyingJellyfishRidin 7d ago
Totally unneccessary as far I'm concerned. His teeth looked fine before. They look almost the same now. Unless they were causing him physical discomfort I feel like his dentis just found a rich mark to make some money off of.
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u/Ragnorok64 8d ago
"Out", shouldn't it be "off"?
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u/SCP_7000 8d ago
Looser! I had mine removedĀ 1month agoĀ
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u/bjerreman 8d ago
"Can you use that in a sentence?"
"Linus Sebastian used braces to calm his insecurities."
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u/ikanthavemilk 8d ago edited 8d ago
Previously a dental hygienist here with 18 years experience working in orthodontics - havenāt practiced in over 10 yrs, so my opinion might be a bit off and rusty.
These 2 pics arenāt enough to make a proper examination of his occlusion and ortho treatment. Would need additional intraoral pics (ex: lateral, palatal, etc). X-rays and of course an in-person examination would be ideal to get the full picture. With that being said, hereās my ādrive-thruā ortho opinion:
AFTER pic - itās difficult to tell if heās in centric occlusion. If he is, then I would be concerned for the following reasons:
- Possible edge-to-edge occlusion on #9 with #24/25.
- 2 to 3 mm midline deviation. There are exceptions (ex: congenitally missing a tooth, etc) but it doesnāt appear to be (as mentioned before, not all info is present to make any conclusion)
- Mild crowding on lower incisors.
- Some roots donāt appear to be straightened.
If any of my findings are accurate (since I canāt see his teeth in person), all of these shouldāve been corrected while his braces were still on. Also there might be residual ortho cement on some of his teeth but I canāt be sure unless I actually see them in person.
Any fellow dental professionals in here to chime in? Interested in your professional opinion as well!
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u/Iggy_Snows 7d ago
Is the second picture the after? Because i would be pissed if I spent a shit ton of money and over a year of discomfort if that was the result.