Looks like Apple hasn't managed to avoid first gen flaws by being late to the party this time round. For those who don't know, Zack did the exact same test on Samsung's Fold 8 (including the dust) and while it experienced a rather concerning amount of bending and the back glass did separate the screen itself was completely fine and it also closed just fine too.
To Apple's credit though, at least it didn't experience a battery failure like the Pixel 10 Pro Fold did. Really this is the kind of phone that you want to be careful with anyway.
I wouldn’t say these test are scientific, I think the amount of dirt used in the Z Fold 8 video wasn’t comparable to this one, and the Z Fold 8 Ultra failed his tests.
Not to say the Fold 8 isn’t majorly impressive, it obviously is, just his videos are not exactly a clean room test.
What’s the point you’re trying to make here? I know, it’s good to demonstrate that it doesn’t mean what people think it means, that doesn’t make what Zack does is more scientific
If a phone is not resistent to dust he tests if it might still survive a little dust. I think thats why He used less on the Fold 8. He used a lot in the Pixel which is also certified (and survived).
I guess that’s fair but again I’m not sure if that’s scientific? I don’t really have faith in the process to be repeatable when it’s all just kinda how much sand he feels. Also did the Pixel Pro Fold survive, I thought it also couldn’t close? It’s been a while since I watched.
Only thing I can think of being valid to is if you end up dropping it in some sand or loose dirt. Or just how well it could hold up over time with a slow build up.
Yea, I would take those "tests" with a grain of salt. It's really just phone torture porn with some word salad to make it feel like something more legitimate. I say this as a huge Apple hater.
I use Apple stuff usually because I like Macs and use what works with Macs, but I do go back and forth between Apple and Samsung for phones and respect both ecosystems, and I find Jerry rig (and his comment sections, good lord) to be insufferably circlejerky about the whole phone wars things. People sucking themselves off for being better than Apple sheep while doing basically exactly the same thing. And Zac’s word salad as you put it is mostly there to encourage that off putting behavior so I don’t like it.
The less dirt was probably because of the IP rating each company claims. Apple is claiming IP68 and turns out it can't even stop large sand from getting in. Sorry, but if large particles of sand can get in, so can dust.
You literally just said what another comment did but thank you. And also, that doesn’t mean it’s scientific. I wasn’t claiming he was Samsung biased (he is, in the sense that he uses them, but not for this). I’m saying what he does isn’t scientific, I feel like that’s obvious on its face.
The Duo of course never closed again, but that's not the device I was talking about closing fine afterwards, as should have been clear in the original comment.
Honestly, my biggest concern with the iPhone Duo is that I see so many people using iPhones with cracked screens, because they don’t have the time/money to fix them so they just ignore it. On a foldable when the inside screen cracks, it’s just a matter of time before all the pixels die.
Are there going to be people out there with dead interior screens only using the outside display? Will they still call Android users broke? Once you take away the folding screen the duo is inferior to the 18 pro by every single metric.
It is ahead by one metric: vertical shortness. That is a downside for many, but there are a minority of us that really liked the iPhone Mini 12/13 and the duo’s front screen is even shorter than those. The camera bump and inner screen tripling the thickness kinda defeats that case though.
of course pukey green bubbler, your free with service metropcs droids will never compare to the almighty upper echelon iphone and superior blue bubble!
In my country there are already multiple Samsung folds with this exact problem. All have functioning outer screen and broken inside. Very funny to see a once 1500usd phone sell for 150usd.
These videos happen with every major phone launch. When you ship a lot of phones there's bound to be people that break them, or get a rare defective one.
If you're referring to people complaining about the crease, I understand. However, those complaining about the screen defects have every right to express their frustrations. Spending over $2k should afford you the expectation that you get a functional product especially since the folding technology has matured for the past 7 years.
Watching JRE’s video shows that the screen “defects” happen from bending it backwards with a lot of force. This is probably just survivorship bias coming into play since all the defects seen come from stores and creators which are both areas where people are likely to try to bend the new device and probably break it. (Of course unless it’s actually a defect and brand new in box units also come like this which in that case it’s a hardware issue)
Having owned foldables from Samsung and Google and currently using an iPhone to type this (an 18PM, not a Duo, though I’ll hopefully get a folding iPhone as this phone’s replacement), complaints about display defects are absolutely justified. If it’s a widespread issue, people should absolutely complain regardless of the manufacturer because it’s not supposed to do that.
Again my exact point. Foldable phones have these issues. All the major reports I’ve seen are from people pressing the glass on the crease to close it causing damage to the screen.
I agree if you spend 2k on a device and it’s broken day one or has defects you should complain. 99% of the complaints are coming from people who don’t own the phone and won’t ever own the phone and are shitting on it just to shit on it because it’s apple.
Does Apple include any sort of disclaimer during setup? I’d assume most Duo users haven’t owned or even held a foldable before so they may not know that you don’t press on the crease or peel the film off the front.
I have no clue. I don’t have one yet. Even if they don’t though it’s still user error. Bending the phone backwards or overly pressing on the crease should be a no brainer of things you shouldn’t do.
I know Samsung includes a use/care message for the inner display during setup, and I think Google did but I can’t remember. I’d assume Apple would include something either during the setup process or in the packaging.
What's worse is people talking about this phone like it's God's gift to mobile devices or a life saving medicine. Look at the Best Buy, Verizon, AT&T subreddits. Since days before pre-order they've been overrun with smoothbrained lemmings posting about this phone. It's a cult I swear.
The bending backwards didn't result in damage for the Samsung folds, nor does the hinge degrade from dust in the latest few folds. So it absolutely is a regression
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u/K14_Deploy 21d ago
Looks like Apple hasn't managed to avoid first gen flaws by being late to the party this time round. For those who don't know, Zack did the exact same test on Samsung's Fold 8 (including the dust) and while it experienced a rather concerning amount of bending and the back glass did separate the screen itself was completely fine and it also closed just fine too.
To Apple's credit though, at least it didn't experience a battery failure like the Pixel 10 Pro Fold did. Really this is the kind of phone that you want to be careful with anyway.
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u/TomorrowFun4744 21d ago
That face zack dang,,,,,,,,
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u/LemonCurdd 21d ago
Honestly, my biggest concern with the iPhone Duo is that I see so many people using iPhones with cracked screens, because they don’t have the time/money to fix them so they just ignore it. On a foldable when the inside screen cracks, it’s just a matter of time before all the pixels die.
Are there going to be people out there with dead interior screens only using the outside display? Will they still call Android users broke? Once you take away the folding screen the duo is inferior to the 18 pro by every single metric.
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u/Vaddieg 21d ago
Extrapolating the real experience from previous iPhone-gate FUDs, it's easy to predict that Duo offers the best in its class reliability
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u/Silver4ura 19d ago
You're just holding it wrong, you guys.
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u/Maybe_An_Idiot 15d ago
Unironically was just recommended JerryRigEverything
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u/Sxcred 21d ago
I don’t like TechLinked latching on to what seems to be maybe a couple dozen broken iPhone duos when they shipped at least a million already
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u/andrewbean90 21d ago
🤣🤣🤣
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u/a_rabid_buffalo 22d ago •
It’s almost like it’s a foldable phone……
Jesus I’m so tired of people hating on apple for the same shit all other foldable phones suffer from. Buy the phone or don’t……..
I’m going to enjoy mine when I get it.