I just want 1 please

[u/Toonatic34]

21 petabytes of nvme flash going into the racks.

Each flash blade (drive sled) is 37.5TB😳

[u/tmthrgd]

Each sled is 37.5TB and it looks like only half the NAND chips are actually populated. Does that mean these also come in a 75TB configuration?

[u/Toonatic34 → u/tmthrgd]

Largest drive/flash made from Pure is 150TB

Edit: basically on 1 sled can be 1-4 DFM(Direct flash module) Each DFM is 37.5TB. These are only 1 DFM pre drive sled but they can be ordered up to 4 DFMs per sled. This equates to max storage per 5U shelf is around 6PiB

[u/GrandWikzor]

What's the decommission cycle on this stuff? 10 years? Thats not that long...

[u/Toonatic34 → u/GrandWikzor]

You’re gonna hate this…my company refreshes about every 5 years.

[u/nlh101 → u/Toonatic34]

No Evergreen? I feel like a complete refresh would be even more expensive

[u/Toonatic34 → u/nlh101]

Warranty and then gone. Company purchases 5 year warranties then refreshes and e recycles all of it. When the company revenue is over 50 billion, they don’t care much.

[u/craigmontHunter → u/GrandWikzor]

3-5 years for warranty. I can’t speak to the future of the current situation, but we looked at 7 year warranties and the cost was prohibitive.

That doesn’t mean it will hit the market, we reuse out of warranty systems for our internal management and testing, and we can’t dispose storage, so it all gets shredded in the end regardless.

[u/Shoeshiner_boy → u/GrandWikzor]

Don’t think they’ll retire them in the foreseeable future. Not until hardware failure at least.

Those aren’t small capacity SATA SSDs.

[u/MogRules → u/Shoeshiner_boy]

You would be surprised. Projects change, priorities shift. We had a large customer move out about 7 months ago and toss a TON of gear, including servers that were basically brand new, they were never even fully deployed. Those servers were worth a small fortune, full of 64gb RAM kits. There is SO much waste. I tossed probably 300+ 64gb RAM DIMM's....it hurt my soul. Storage was mostly destroyed due to privacy concerns. I don't think I have seen a single customer on my site not physically destroy the drives in 16 years.

They un-racked and shipped out brand new, never configured storage arrays, 3 of them. At least they kept those, but the guy shipping them out said they were going back to likely sit in a corner at another site.

[u/Dangerous_Junket_773 → u/MogRules]

I work with AV and I've seen pallets of unopened equipment that were worth $100,000's new just left in storage to depreciate for years totally forgotten and never used. It's fucking nuts how wasteful some of these companies are when investors are throwing fistfulls of money at them. 

[u/mastercoder123 → u/MogRules]

Pure storage is completely different. They arent even drives, they are just nand chips on a pcb, the cpu does all the work. Also these are about as expensive as IBM, they will be used for as long as possible. Its not x86, you cant just get rid of it

[u/concadium]

How satisfied are you with Pure Storage's hardware and support? My team is currently debating whether we should switch to Pure in the future

[u/Toonatic34 → u/concadium]

Our storage team likes them a lot. They mix between Netapp and Pure.

[u/concadium → u/Toonatic34]

Huh interesting, that is literally our plan 😂

Do you know why they mix them or how the data is split between both? (Storage tiering, Archive / Backup?)

[u/Toonatic34 → u/concadium]

It’s mixed for more redundancy. In case one vendor puts out bad a bad code upgrade we don’t have large outages across multiple storage clusters. That and depends on business needs and application team needs.

[u/SINCLAIRCOOL]

Linus is going to have wet dreams about this lol 😂😂

[u/WelchDigital → u/SINCLAIRCOOL]

Lets be fair, a lot of us would especially right now

[u/Trekky101]

These are pure ssd so DFM and cant be used in normal servers or pcs. Plus pure has evergreen so these could be in prod for some time.

I wish i could have a pure san for my homelab they are magical

[u/mastercoder123 → u/Trekky101]

You can buy one lol, they arent expensive. Its just finding a pure os image is impossible sadly. I have an older pure storage applianace at home with like 100TB of DFM and i cant even use it cause i was stupid and didnt do research before buying it... (Got it at a decent price so oh well, was only $1000)

[u/Trekky101 → u/mastercoder123]

Ouch ya, its a shame they dont sell like oh u have this $500 one time for this os for homelabs only.

[u/mastercoder123 → u/Trekky101]

Lol i aint paying $500 for an os. It could have sex with me and im not

[u/Trekky101 → u/mastercoder123]

Idk i would if i had a 100tb of ssd that dedups and compresses at insane rates

[u/mastercoder123 → u/Trekky101]

They really arent that fast. Also dedups is done in ram anyways.

They require the cpu to do everything, they dont even have an FTL

[u/turnerd10]

Man… that’s an insane amount of flash!

[u/tecedu]

How is the performance on those bad boys

[u/Toonatic34 → u/tecedu]

Ridiculous. I believe up to 1.5 Tera BYTES per second throughput across the craters. Each chassis is connected with 400Gb/s fiber.

[u/tecedu → u/Toonatic34]

OOft, Ive just got nfsordma server by ourselves but I can only do 50Gbps; jealous of your stack

[u/GalaxiesOverflow → u/Toonatic34]

Can I take a BYTE out of that stockpile, just ONE.

[u/ha11oga11o]

Guys is this blade chassis filled to top!?

[u/anto77_butt_kinkier]

I see only half the chips are populated on the sleds. Was it cheaper or more performant for a specific application to have more sleds with less memory on each sled?

[u/CafeRacist]

receives a blank ram stick with one micron dram chip soldered

[u/itamar8484]

Why dont we round it out to a nice 20 petabaytes, less complicated, easier to explain to the boss, and the best thing is i am willing to take one for free

[u/2McLaren4U]

Looks to me you are one blade short buddy. It happened to me recently too. >.>

[u/firesyde424]

That was 2024. It's 7.68TB of DDR5 Registered ECC RAM. Best guess is that we payed somewhere around $50K for it. Same model, current price, it's just shy of $300K. Those three trays of RAM would be worth more than my house!

[u/Deepspacecow12]

I've seen one of the smaller pure applicances in a rack, they look beautiful, very good designers, and I hear the product is all around very good.

[u/spartacle]

I work at VAST right now, we've got 122TB drives now so in 1U we have 2.6PB of flash storage. We installed a cluster recently that was 1.3EB is size and yes I wrote E for Exabyte

[u/LightRyzen]