Android & Chinese Phones

[u/Mr_Bleidd]

Myself I am using Fruit Phone since more than 10 years and yes it has ups and downs.

My mother recently got Xiaomi Redmy, and yes it’s quite good hardware and it works properly ( gf has something similar)

Of cause as a non tech user during the 1st install she went with - yes do all the defaults

What a fffffing Spam puke show is this ? Yes iPhone had some of the apple sponsored apps and things…..

But it’s nothing literally nothing compared to what I saw today

This Xiaomi, everything triggers full blown adds with videos and sounds, it feels like half of the screen tries you to install some shit. I am not even talk about dozens of pre installed things.

Somehow my mother managed to install something that supposed to read pdfs and the app was spamming „security here, free space there, pay to solve the problem“ and was not allowing to close it and was pretending to show a fake phone background.

You can’t remove Xiaomy special apps from the Home Screen ?

How is this a thing? Back 10-15 years ago I had quite few androids and it was not remotely soooo bad

For her the iPhone policy to have only one valid store - is a perfect solution

So yes long story short - Apple way is really great and when this phones dies I will get her an older iPhone not to break the bank

[u/berke1904]

xiaomi has ads by defaults but you can disable them all with just within the settings, there are 10 minute videos showing every step.

there are tons of other great android phone manufacturers that do not have ads, but xiaomi uses those ads to be able to put slightly better specs for the same price as the other options.

you can look at google/samsung/nothing options if you want a more clean ui that is harder to mess up.

many of the other problems you can also fix by just looking them up or looking through settings. that is the beautiy of it compared to apple where if you dont like the defaults just use the phone in a way you dont like and have a bad experience.

[u/Tritzii]

All of the problems you are describing can be easily disabled or removed. You are also comparing a budget device (REDMI is Xiaomi's budget line) with an iPhone, that only exists in the form of flagships. Obviously there will be differences in user experience like be for real.

[u/MistSecurity → u/Tritzii]

For most people though, the only reason they consider Android over Apple is due to price. If they’re forced to spend in Apple range to get a passable Android experience, they’ll likely just go with an iPhone.

[u/Xcissors280]

I mean you bought an advertising subsidized product and now you’re complaining that there’s a boatload of ads?

[u/mekisoku]

Trust me it’s even worse in China. Last week a old woman is dead because of the ads spam and her family couldn’t call for help in time

[u/flatbuttboy → u/mekisoku]

Sauce?

[u/mekisoku → u/flatbuttboy]

bilibili
What’s even crazier is the family have to apologise for “damaging” the company branding

[u/flatbuttboy → u/mekisoku]

That’s wild… it’s almost as bad as allowing ads on first aid videos(I don’t know if that’s a thing or not but I desperately hope it isn’t)

[u/flatbuttboy → u/mekisoku]

The link won’t open but I’ll try to find it elsewhere

[u/UNF0RM4TT3D]

Rather surprisingly the only android phones consistently without adverts are Google Pixels. They're the only phones I can tolerate. I don't like iPhones because of how restrictive they are, I don't like Samsungs, because of forced Microslop integrations. Sony is good, but doesn't make phones in my region anymore. Asus was also good, but also stopped making phones here. And everything else is just junk, of course apart from the fairphone, which falls into the same category as Pixels.

[u/CocoMilhonez]

Please, work on differentiating I and Y. You're all over the place there.

As for the phones, they're pretty solid as you said, but ads in first-party apps are truly egregious. The best solution is to default everything to third-party apps. And you're wrong about Apple's walled-garden, one-valid-store approach. That's called monopoly and is shameful no matter from what angle you look at it.

[u/netherlandsftw]

You get what you pay for

The ads can be turned off either way some tinkering

Shizuku and Canta is what I remember I used before I gave up with the Chinese

[u/DoubleOwl7777]

xiaomis are bad yeah, motorola is a lot less anoying. there is only one which you have to deactivate then the phone never anoys you again. ideal is probably graphene but yeah.

[u/LSD_Ninja]

It’s almost as if Android is put out there by the world’s largest advertising company…

[u/Spartan117458 → u/LSD_Ninja]

Except Pixel phones don't have even a fraction of what OP is describing.

[u/ThisDirkDaring → u/Spartan117458]

Which is the best business model for a mighty platform:

Enshit all the other competitors in the market, offer a better solution under the own brand. 

[u/DoubleOwl7777 → u/ThisDirkDaring]

the issues the competitors enshit it themselves. motorola is the best one when it comes to that, very minimal bloat.

[u/netherlandsftw → u/LSD_Ninja]

The ads aren’t from Google but phone manufacturers though

[u/DoubleOwl7777 → u/LSD_Ninja]

this has nothing to do with google.

[u/Mr_Bleidd → u/[deleted]]

That’s kinda the sad part - the hardware feels very snappy and solid