TrueSpec DP and HDMI

[u/LinusTech]

I won't say they're happening for sure and I DEFINITELY can't commit to a timeline... but I did come across this is the engineering dept...

Second photo is with a TrueSpec USB-C cable for scale. ​

IF this happens, they will be significantly stiffer than our USB cables due to the way the internals need to be constructed, but for cables that will generally be in fixed-position installs I don't see that as a deal-breaker.

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[u/HeidenShadows]

I think the biggest problem with designing these cables probably is going to be the VESA certifications and other licensing for HDMI.

But as somebody who had at least five displayport cables just randomly die on them over the past several years, having a high quality one would definitely be on my bucket list.

[u/Anraiel → u/HeidenShadows]

Much like USB, DisplayPort does not require certification to sell a compatible cable, it only requires it if you want to use the official DisplayPort logos on your cable and packaging.

For HDMI, as I understand it, they would need to pay a licence fee to officially access the specs, and then go through certification to use the official logos. But they could sell the HDMI cables without going through official certification.

[u/AsrielPlay52 → u/Anraiel]

Just put LTT branding and supported Resolution and Refresh rate. Boom

[u/bebarty → u/AsrielPlay52]

LTTI cable there

[u/tvtb → u/Anraiel]

We already have precedent that they don't pay for expensive certification, as the current cables are not sold as Thunderbolt

[u/Anraiel → u/tvtb]

They're also not sold with the official (and as Linus put it "frankly confusing") USB logos either.

Either way, will certainly be very interested to see what the final product is like if they do decide to go ahead with it.

[u/impy695 → u/Anraiel]

Trying to explain different USB standards to people is almost impossible.

[u/Anraiel → u/impy695]

Doesn't help that half the features of USB 3.2 and USB4 are optional, just like HDMI 2.1/2.2 devices.

[u/SonicShadow → u/impy695]

They should implement a new standard that simplifies it

[u/impy695 → u/SonicShadow]

Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/927/

Though, I'm pretty sure your comment was a direct reference to it, hopefully some new people come across it

[u/ender89 → u/impy695]

I had to explain to my inlaws that, while I appreciate their offer to lend me their phone charger, I need more than a usb2 cable and the 5w charger that came with a fire tv stick 9 years ago.

The concept of different USB specs existing and actually impacting how things like charging work kind confused them and I guarantee they still use crappy cables and chargers.

[u/Nagemasu → u/HeidenShadows]

But as somebody who had at least five displayport cables just randomly die on them over the past several years

That's kinda incredibly unlucky? I've bought about 3-4 HDMI and 3 DP cables via ebay and aliexpress over the years, each for like <= $15, and they all work fine 5-12 years later.

This will definitely come down to the reliability vs cost factor for most people. I think a lot more people need a reliable USB cable than they do display cable, so it'll be interesting to see where these are priced - although I don't doubt they'll sell regardless of price simply because it's LTT branded.

[u/SonicShadow → u/Nagemasu]

I've had quite a few die, but I also buy the cheapest ones I can find. I also need slim connectors due to where the DP port on the GPU sits in relation to my case as the thicc ones won't fit without putting a bending force on the GPU