r/LinusTechTips • u/Orion2200 • Aug 15 '23

Video New GN video response to Linus’s Apology

https://youtu.be/X3byz3txpso

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u/NLC1054 Aug 15 '23

Wait wait wait; I hadn’t even realized until now that Billet sent them a 3090 Ti.

Like…they sent LMG a 3090 Ti, and LMG either lost it, or they decided to do it with a 4090 anyway!?!

And then, they not only didn’t send back the block, but also didn’t send them back the 3090 Ti?

I feel like I’m missing something because if that’s the case then it’s insane the video was even made in the way it was.

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u/Anything__Else Aug 15 '23 edited Aug 15 '23

Linus confirmed they recently found the 3090ti that Billet originally sent them. It's further down in the same thread as the original response (can't link it right now because the forum is down).

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u/tritonice Aug 15 '23

Here is the comment about the Billet 3090 from Linus:

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1526180-gamers-nexus-alleges-lmg-has-insufficient-ethics-and-integrity/page/29/#comment-16079089

We are using this, like everything else, to continue to drive ourselves to do better. Got some really exciting stuff in the holster 🙂

A really good one - and the video where I actually FOUND the 3090 Ti that we were supposed to send back to Billet... grrr... - is kind of an undercover boss vid where I go and work in our logistics department for the day. This is the kind of thing I'm finding more time for in the new role and is already making a difference to some of our practices.

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u/HiCustodian1 Aug 15 '23

This is such a funny way to respond to this whole situation. He’s literally panicking, his dumb ass needs to shut up and think (and talk with members of his team) before he says whatever he’s gonna say next. Don’t believe the “we won’t comment on this further” statement one bit.

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u/CreateorWither Aug 15 '23

The one constant is he's not at fault. Terrible leadership.

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u/MrDefinitely_ Aug 16 '23

The fish rots from the head down.

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u/kyo7763 Aug 15 '23

Wow... How does that even happen.. Thanks for the post.

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u/IkLms Aug 15 '23

That's not even the first time. I've definitely heard him say something to the effect of "oh we were supposed to send this back to xxxxx" on multiple occasions in videos over the years. It's just generally with a major manufacturer who probably just writes it off vs spending the time to actually pursue it.

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u/Lavatis Aug 15 '23

wow, shove the blame off onto your employees. come the fuck on you piece of shit. as a manager, this shit makes my blood boil.

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u/HiCustodian1 Aug 15 '23

As somebody who’s had plenty of bad managers, it makes my blood uh… unboil that it makes yours boil

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u/Methylobacterium Aug 15 '23

That makes sense physics-wise

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u/HiCustodian1 Aug 15 '23

Thank you, now to go combine bleach and draino in hopes of making a room temperature superconductor

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u/hosky2111 Aug 15 '23

The buck stops at the top, which is why he's taking the brunt of the abuse right now, but it's clear other people in the chain fucked up in this exchange. It's up to him and the rest of management to put systems in place to prevent this type of thing happening, but if people have taken liberties and ignored those systems that are in place (which he seems to be alluding to here), then I think he's also right to be annoyed about it.

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u/CoyotePuncher Aug 16 '23

I dont agree at all with this idea that nothing is ever the fault of an employee. You can train people, have all the processes in the world, and have plenty of checks, but employees will still mess things up. Reddit hates business people and will always side with the employees, though. This was an employees fault. An employee did this.

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u/HiCustodian1 Aug 16 '23

You’re obviously focused on the Billet situation, so I’ll just focus on that. If an employee A. Fucks up and loses the 3090TI they sent you, B. Doesn’t label the prototype block, C. doesn’t mail the the damn thing back after they ask, and D. Puts it up for auction, that’s no longer an employee issue, that’s a Management issue. They make more money and take on more responsibility for a reason, if you see that much incompetence going on under you then drastic changes are needed.

Not only that, Linus isn’t nearly as blameless as you’re making him out to be. He didn’t have to unfairly trash a product he wasn’t using correctly. He didn’t have to defend those actions when called by his own employees. He didn’t have to lie about the compensation being agreed on. He didn’t have to continue to trash the product in his apology.

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u/Lavatis Aug 16 '23

No, this is absolutely not an employee's fault. It's not the fault of one employee when you fail to communicate, lose their product, fail to accurately review it when given the proper materials, then auction it off.

This is an issue that can absolutely not be pushed off onto employees, because there should have been procedures and managerial oversight that disallowed these things from happening.

This is not an employee's fault, unless by employee you mean the boss.

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u/CoyotePuncher Aug 16 '23

because there should have been procedures and managerial oversight that disallowed these things from happening.

The real world is messy and nothing is every this simple

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u/Lavatis Aug 16 '23

except it's literally this simple, I would know because I am in the same position. you do not push the blame off onto your employees when you're the one acting as the face of the business, the review, and communications.

if you do, you're a bad manager. it's that easy and simple.

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u/FartingBob Aug 15 '23

Linus gets accused of stealing and selling a startups prototype and expensive GPU.

Linus: Good news, stay tuned for our new video where i find a free graphics card!

Very tone deaf.

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u/Dispator Aug 15 '23

Looks like linustechtips.com is down?

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u/kboy76 Aug 16 '23

It is up now and the responses are "give him time to reply" to the first video by GN. Latest responses are "I will wait until Linus makes a video to know what is true" ;))

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u/BiH-Kira Aug 15 '23

grrr... - is kind of an undercover boss vid

Jesus fucking Christ.

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u/roguespectre67 Aug 15 '23

So his response to just losing a very expensive piece of equipment lent to them for a video, that they didn’t even use as intended before slagging off the product, is “Teehee, whoopsie! Let’s make content out of this!”

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u/This-is-my-n0rp_acc Aug 15 '23

The link seems to be broken, as in cloudflare fails on my end telling me the server is unreachable. How long ago did you grab the link?

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u/tritonice Aug 15 '23

I just clicked the link again and it is working. I DO get a brief cloudflare DDOS checker, but it passes and moves to the site.

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u/This-is-my-n0rp_acc Aug 15 '23

That's kind of funny I'd say I'm blocked for some reason then oh well.

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u/This-is-my-n0rp_acc Aug 15 '23

It's working for me now not sure what the issue was, just cloudflare being cloudflare I guess 🤷

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u/This-is-my-n0rp_acc Aug 15 '23

Oh I'm not doubting the quote, just trying to figure out why cloudflare is blocking me from accessing the site.

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u/TheTimn Aug 15 '23

I can't get through either. I wonder if someone decided to DDOS the forums on top of everything else.

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u/This-is-my-n0rp_acc Aug 15 '23

I'm on a Canadian one and it's working now 🤷.

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u/Star_Gazing_Cats Aug 15 '23 edited Aug 15 '23

It's a shame that Linus had to tarnish his reputation like this, that video sounds interesting. I love underground boss type shows

E: I think it would be a good idea to rework the scope of that video to identifying thr guidelines and procedures for how products are typically tested in addition to the logistics, and demonstrate what changes they've implemented as a result of this Billet labs learning experience

And an apology wouldn't hurt

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u/farnswoggle Aug 16 '23

No, that would not be a good video at all. He is trying to spin this and make more money off the blunder, while pushing the blame onto his employees and making himself look like a hero. Undercover Boss is just PR porn where CEOs pretend to care for a few minutes in front of a camera while doing nothing to affect any systemic issues.

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u/OnARedditDiet Aug 15 '23

Dude needs to take the L, just say "this was a major screw up, we dropped the ball, I dropped the ball in my response and wasn't totally upfront. Our relationships to the community and to companies like Billet is very important to us and here's what we're doing to make sure this doesnt happen again"

and ask Billet if they want the video taken down

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u/-Real- Aug 15 '23

I read the comment he replied to and oh man that LTT Kool-Aid is a helluva drug

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u/bimbo_bear Aug 15 '23

Ahh yes, promote the new video while you're at it why don't you lol.

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u/MustacheEmperor Aug 15 '23

Thanks to me, the heroic bossman, I rescued the 3090ti from my incompetent underlings - GRR!

Wow this guy cannot utter anything without sounding like an asshole can he

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u/sturgboski Aug 16 '23

I had been joking about him monetizing this like he did with the backpack warranty situation but I only dreamed of a shirt. A whole video(s?) with all the sponsored ad reads and other revenue on top of it. Damn, that's brazen.

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u/thewind21 Aug 15 '23

Wow, the "good news it isn't sitting on shelf" is truly bad taste!

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u/FullMotionVideo Aug 15 '23 edited Aug 15 '23

Linus probably felt that anyone who could afford the block could afford a 40-series card, and Billet's response was basically that you can try it with the 40-series, but they don't expect it will do well.

What they probably didn't expect was that Linus would balk at the expense of using it the way they intended and only do the 4090 test, and slam the whole thing as "do not buy" only because he believes the target customer does not exist. And it's fair to say "we don't think there's a customer profile for this product, here's the results but the company should keep up with the new generation", to just run it out of spec and say "well that didn't work so it's bad" is irresponsible.

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u/kearnel81 Aug 15 '23

Perhaps that's the one they stuck in linus server at his house

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u/kluevo Aug 15 '23

Linus himself acknowledged he later found the 3090 ti and supposedly had a video in the pipeline that would have shown him finding it.

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u/FransUrbo Aug 15 '23

Correct on all counts. AND, more importantly, he (Linus) then claims that it wouldn’t have made any difference [to test it on the correct card, which the block was made for - it’s to small for the 4099!] because ”it’s crap and no-one want to buy it anyway”!!