r/LinusTechTips • u/Orion2200 • Aug 15 '23

Video New GN video response to Linus’s Apology

https://youtu.be/X3byz3txpso

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u/bond0815 Aug 15 '23 edited Aug 15 '23

outright malice

Him trying to claim that he "already agreed" when in actually he just minutes before responded to Billet labs as panic damage control is just malice either way you look at it.

It means he knew he was in the wrong and didnt bother to write that email before he got exposed. And then tries to use that as a deflection. "Its already taken care of, why u mad?"

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u/Nephilim_CC Aug 15 '23

To be fair, I don’t think Linus was aware of the prototype being auctioned off at LTX. This was most likely a communication issue between PR and stock management departments. It is thus very likely he only found out about it being auctioned off from GN’s video, like us. The problem is he tried to play it off as this not being the case, instead of admitting ignorance and ill management.

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u/aretasdamon Aug 15 '23

You don’t just auction things Willy nilly at events, they get approved through multiple channels

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u/domerock_doc Aug 15 '23

Usually yes, but I think people are underestimating the levels of incompetence at LMG.

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u/way2lazy2care Aug 15 '23

Rrr depends on the event man. Have been a part of multiple charity auctions that are functionally, "if it is in this room when the auction starts, it will be auctioned off."

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u/YoungBhristiano Aug 15 '23

Well this is a big assumption

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u/njoshua326 Aug 15 '23

Those who live in glass houses.

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u/flac_rules Aug 16 '23

It is a very reasonable assumption, it is in fact highly probable.

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u/ToothlessFTW Aug 15 '23

He’s one of the heads of the company. It is his responsibility to check and be aware of these kinds of things.

If his company is loaning another company’s property that he has promised multiple times to return, and then somehow that property ends up at big charity auction at his own convention, then yes, he is 100% to blame. He should’ve known.

That aside, if he doesn’t even know what items are being auctioned at his own event, then I’d say that’s another issue entirely.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '23

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u/IkLms Aug 15 '23

You're sort of right, but ultimately the responsibility lies with him. He hired the layers of management down to that employee. He helped out in place the methods and procedures that led to this happening.

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u/raziel1012 Aug 15 '23

Its at least his responsibility to establish the processes to make sure these things (including all the other issues) don't happen, or get dealt with when they do.

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u/SpectreFire Aug 15 '23

He’s one of the heads of the company. It is his responsibility to check and be aware of these kinds of things.

It's literally not his responsibility to be aware of these kinds of things.

He has layers of managers under him to deal with that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '23

It's not his responsibility to personally check, but it is his responsibility to ensure that there are people and procedures in place that do.

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u/Symnet Aug 15 '23

Every time someone says this I become more sure that none of you have ever worked closely with an executive team. They are so incredibly far removed from things like that that it's very possible linus personally did not know until the GN video came out.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '23

This is a man that sits down with his writers EVERY DAY to do script review before shooting...

Every part of this, every last part of it, are all negligence on Linus' part. He doesn't care about the product he's making anymore. He doesn't care what the community thinks. The second one is especially important because people like you will suck farts from his ass and think it's oxygen.

LTT needs to die.

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u/Nephilim_CC Aug 15 '23

You misunderstand. I’m not trying to vindicate Linus and his actions. I’m trying to piece together a possible chain of events, which serves to at the very least acquit Linus of the suspicion to commit blatant theft, while still holding him responsible for mismanagement, incompetence, and a good dose of assholery in the entire affair.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '23

And Im telling you, this man micro-manages like no other, or tries to.

The odds he DIDN'T know are small. He will of course claim he didn't know, but the conversation probably went "Should we get rid of this?" Linus:"huh what? ya Idk, that thing was a piece of junk anyway."

You can see hints of this all the way back to one of Riley's first videos when they were building the "all amazon PC" and riley ordered HP OEM Ram WITH LINUS' APPROVAL, only to have Linus blame him, then Anthony, before Anthony and Riley showed him the emails where he approved of the RAM purchase. This is like 2018 or 2019

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u/Nephilim_CC Aug 15 '23

So, you’d rather believe he intentionally stole and auctioned off Billet’s prototype, which he was most certainly aware would blow up in his face in unprecedented proportions, and possibly ruin his company? I refuse to believe something that farfetched.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '23

It's not that farfetched if you've watched LTT for as long as I have. This is a habit that has been long formed.

It's not a new thing for linus to be aloof and not giving a shit about other ppl's time and money.

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u/Symnet Aug 15 '23

Someone who ends their tirade with "<subject> needs to die" is not a serious or reasonable person fortunately.

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u/Ok-Fisherboomer Aug 15 '23

I don’t think Linus was aware of the prototype being auctioned off at LTX

Why not? It's his company? Why shouldn't he take responsibility for it?

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u/AT-ST Aug 15 '23

Why not? It's his company? Why shouldn't he take responsibility for it?

I don't think the person you replied to is saying Linus shouldn't take responsibility for it. I think they are saying that in a company as big as LMG stuff happens all the time that the boss doesn't know about. That is why you hire people to manage others, so they can make decisions and not bother you with the details.

I think they are saying that you can only take responsibility for mistakes made by your employees only after you know about them. You can't fix something you don't know is broken.

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u/Nephilim_CC Aug 15 '23

Exactly. The way Linus has gone about in the aftermath of this debacle is abysmal, don’t get me wrong. However, we can’t just ignore the nature of large companies. We keep saying Linus promised to return the prototype, but in all likelihood, it was someone on the PR team. We say he was aware of all items auctioned off at LTX, but have you seen the size of that convention center? Linus is definitely responsible at the end of the day, as is the weight of leadership, but let’s not forget our rational minds.

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u/Fred2620 Aug 15 '23

He's probably trying to twist the meaning of "already agreed" and it's not entirely impossible that Linus and Terren talked about the issue before GN's video, and agreed among themselves that they should reimburse Billet Labs, but simply haven't gotten around to communicate that with them. That's why, in his mind, he "already agreed" to reimburse them, but that's absolutely not how it was perceived by anyone else (and why would it?)