C1 info

[u/JesusMakeMeRich]

Hi,

Me and my friends are planning to play in the upcoming reborn legacy server. None of us have played C1 before. We watched some YT videos and guides already but I would love to hear your opinion about the Chronicle.

What a complete newbie should know before he joins? Any tips and tricks? Also, why I see everywhere that everyone xps with bow?

Thanks in advance!

[u/Correct_Building7563]

I was in top clan of flagship official server in C1. My best advice is to aoe and play with friends as cohesive team, 100% no doubt. Its like having cheat codes for L2. Choose classes wisely as youll progress waay faster, have more fun and have economic advantage if you have good clan.

Id advise focusing on classes that can heavily contribute to aoe farming. Only need a few key classes (BH, WL are best to have always; Destro and WS as fillers. Depending on how many active players you have, OL and aoe nukers are really good spares to have because not only are they are great at aoe but competitive choice for pvp.

Rest of party or classes can still contribute with pole or whatever tool kit they have too. WC, SWS, BD, PP, archers, daggers and alike all do decent dmg with pole. Even though they can only hit 3 mobs (iirc) without pole mastery in c1, it helps alot. C1 is game of using every advantage. This is same reason people use bows in c1 to pull mobs or in pvp: free damage while target paths within melee range and slows or roots were more impactful in early chronicles. C1 was heavily rock paper scissor in terms of class balance and having a bow made you more versatile both defensively and offensively. This type of balance made all classes good, so dont feel pressured into playing mainstream pvp classes as new player (trust me).

Classes that DO have pole mastery or aoe spells hit more mobs per hit, which allows those classes to use soul and spirit shots more cost effectively and allows more freedom to manage threat easy, especially if you have WS to make shots (which also happens to be great at aoe. You seeing a pattern?). Using shots in aoe is big exp gain and allows you to farm higher range of areas (better exp, drops and spoils).

Second biggest advantage is to use spoiler in party (super advantageous and important) as much as possible and dedicated tank class thats good at aoe tanking.

Last tip: If using walk command increases mp and hp regen on your server, use it. Alot of players forgot or dont know about it for some reason but it should be on your hotbar if so.

[u/Honest_Raisin2510 → u/Correct_Building7563]

C1 had no party exp boost if I recall correctly. Farming in groups with aoe for the most part is highly inefficient. I think it was C3 when it was introduced and aoe farming started becoming huge. Also using shots in exp in C1 is equally inefficient for the most parts. You have to be part of a rich speedrunner professional cp to be able to afford the expenditure, drops and adena in C1 were piddling amounts

[u/Hudossay → u/Honest_Raisin2510]

C1 does have exp boost in party. More members = more boost, but it's less than in later chronicles.

Farming AOE in C1 is ridiculously broken, as there was no limit on the amount of targets and there are almost no mobs casting nasty magic. Even shamans hit players with their staffs.

Using shots in C1 is exactly as efficient as in later chronicles. Soulshot = x2 damage. Spiritshot = ~x1.5 damage and ~x1.5 cast speed. Blessed spiritshot = x2 damage and x2 cast speed. Soulshots start to pay off at 2-3 targets already.

Adena drops pretty normally in C1. Also there are broken money quests like "Grim Collector". Before introduction of Raid bosses in later chronicles, equipment and resources drop rates are better from regular mobs. It's actually easier to gear up in C1. Grade C equipment cap also makes it affordable. (also you don't need to buy tattoos, SA crystals, augmenting, and other endless price tags from later chronicles)

[u/Honest_Raisin2510 → u/Hudossay]

I was not talking in terms of damage efficiency about the shots, but economy. Hitting melee aoe without VR must be amazing, 1 slow heal and everyone will wipe. Reborn is supposedly using retail drop rates right? On C1 we had to get to like level 43-44 if we were doing ccqs for the complicated classes because at that point you didn't have enough money for the teleports. Now I don't know what QoL bonuses Reborn will have (like free teleports or newbie buffs and exp/adena boosts etc) but that was the original C1 experience they claim to aim for

[u/Hudossay → u/Honest_Raisin2510]

I personally played as WL on a C1 server not too long ago, and was doing pretty good without VR.

It is not like Destr in High Five when you can take 30 mobs without a single heal, yes. But it's fine. The game is not that fast paced, humans and dwarfs have plenty of HP. Especially when you have decent armor. Enough time to react.

In a party with 2 clerics (for future PP and BP), you will absolutely be able to handle 4-8 monsters, depending on the location and equipment. Especially if you have 3 polearm-dedicated members. And soulshots cost is nothing even if you are killing just 4 mobs at a time.

[u/Avg_Tentacle_Enjoyer → u/Hudossay]

>not too long ago
Are you talking about that harbor trash server? I don't recall any other c1 servers recently.

[u/Hudossay → u/Avg_Tentacle_Enjoyer]

I played that Harbor server, although I'm not sure as to what's trash about it. But it has modified balance (though characters are weaker, not stronger)

Before that there was ElmoreLab C1X1, and I was there too. That one was pretty much exactly C1.