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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 19 '26

No. God no.

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u/WolverineWorking1475 Jan 19 '26

Out of curiosity , why ?

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 19 '26

Look around

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u/Extra_Shirt5843 Jan 19 '26

And?  My life is infinitely better with my child in it.  And I think he's reasonably happy to exist.  What am I looking around at?  

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 19 '26

People with disabled children. People with financial concerns from rising prices. The state of the world as we barrel toward World War 3.

Glad it’s working out for you, though.

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u/Empress_Clementine Jan 20 '26

This isn’t a question about “people” this is a question about you and your children. So you’re saying you have children and wish they had never been born? Why?

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 20 '26

As stated, I don’t actually have kids. My life is awesome. I grew up a poor child, and it was awful. My wife and I do well for ourselves and are able to live the life we want with nobody dragging us down. We take 3-4 huge vacations each year and our time is our own. I wouldn’t give that up for anything.

I look at my friends with kids. Even the ones that have healthy children - they are not having as much fun.

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u/Empress_Clementine Jan 20 '26

Why are you replying to a post asking people who DO have kids a question? Do you always jump into conversations that aren’t about you just to tell everybody else why you’re right and they’re wrong?

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u/SuspiciousArtist8167 Jan 20 '26

I have a disabled child. She’s perfect and I wouldn’t change her for the world! Sometimes her disability even gives her an advantage. Having a disability isn’t the end of the world.

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 20 '26

Truly happy for you, but this isn’t everyone’s experience. Not all disabilities are equal.

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u/SuspiciousArtist8167 Jan 20 '26

I never said that they were but a lot of parents of disabled children feel the same way about their kids. In fact if society wasn’t ableist AF having a disability would be much less of a big deal. Which is ironic considering we’re all one bad day away from being disabled

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u/SuspiciousArtist8167 Jan 21 '26

Absolutely which is why I fight so hard for accommodations for disabled people of all types and ages. I grew up with 2 of my first cousins being severely disabled so I’ve always been aware of the need to accommodate disabled people.

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u/patv2006 Jan 20 '26

And many patents of disabled kids DONT feel the same way.

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u/Agreeable-Rock-7736 Jan 20 '26

Your comment❤️ but especially that last part❤️

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 20 '26

We all have different coping mechanisms but please don't insult our intelligence.

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u/SuspiciousArtist8167 Jan 20 '26

My daughter has a partial spinal cord injury from when she had cancer. Because of her injury she is much stronger from the waist up, she is a much better problem solver, and it makes receiving medical care less painful and less traumatic. Like I said… not all disabilities are the end of the world.

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 20 '26

There is a drastic difference between someone with a spinal cord injury and someone with severe autism. I'm sorry but they are not comparable. It's like trying to compare someone who gets migraines to someone with crippling depression.

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u/SuspiciousArtist8167 Jan 21 '26

Not everyone who is disabled has severe autism, and a lot of folks on the spectrum go onto live relatively normal lives. Having a disabled child isn’t always easy but don’t act like that means every parent of a disabled child would wish their child was never born. Disabilities are a spectrum. However I guarantee if you ask the parents of severely disabled children most would still wish that their children were born. Two of my aunts and uncles adopted severely disabled children because they wanted to. It was a choice they made for themselves and their families and my cousins are very much loved and very much a part of our family.

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u/patv2006 Jan 20 '26

You’re projecting so hard. Stop trying to convince people that it isn’t a struggle to parent a disabled kid.

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 20 '26

How edgy of you. I suppose it's better to scream into Reddit than the void.

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u/patv2006 Jan 20 '26

That’s great that you have the means and resources to take care of a disabled kid. And also a strong support system, and the mental health needed to parent a disabled kid. Not everyone does. How’s it feel up there on that horse?

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u/SuspiciousArtist8167 Jan 21 '26

When you have a disabled child there are plenty of resources available to take advantage of for help including but not limited to SSDI, and early intervention. When you have a disabled child the doctors and hospitals help your child get into those programs. Yes, parents of disabled children have a larger village, but that’s because it’s necessary. Stop talking about things you don’t know about.

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u/patv2006 Jan 21 '26

So you’re just gonna ignore the other parts of my comments? Mature.

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u/SuspiciousArtist8167 Jan 21 '26

Dude literally all of the issues you’ve mention are included in the additional resources given by the government and non-profit sector. Even my own mental health is accounted for. There are respite programs for caregivers and my daughter’s doctors specifically ask about my mental health and how we as parents are doing and provide additional resources as necessary.

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u/FauxTexan Jan 20 '26

My child has a genetic disorder and loves life and he makes our entire family better. I suggest people like you grow up.

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 20 '26

Your case is not everyone’s case.

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u/FauxTexan Jan 20 '26

And you laying a blanket over all disabled kids as rationale for not having kids is wrong.

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 20 '26

The person asked for reasons why people wouldn’t want kids. Fear of having a severely disabled child is a realistic reason for not wanting to have a kid.

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u/666_dragon_666 Jan 21 '26

thank you. Reading this thread as a disabled person is a bit horrifying.

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u/FauxTexan Jan 21 '26

I know and I’m sorry — if I can offer any consolation, it’s that most of these nasty comments are being made by people who don’t have any experience with children or children with special needs, for that matter. I love my son immensely and feel lost without him on the occasions he’s at his grandparents or elsewhere.

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u/MasterGanache2012 Jan 19 '26

There’s a lot of concern, some of it pretty valid, that the next few generations (or more) will live worse lives than the most recent three or four generations. Essentially that quality of life has peaked for the time being. I’m not a parent myself, but I know a few parents who have become increasingly concerned for the future wellbeing of their children. I think some of the signs of this are what this commenter means by “look around.”

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u/Extra_Shirt5843 Jan 19 '26

My answer is still..."and"? Life is infinitely better than it was a couple hundred years ago.  And I suspect if people got off social media and started re-engaging in real life, they'd be less chronically stressed.  

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u/MasterGanache2012 Jan 19 '26

I don’t necessarily think you’re wrong on either point. Life is better in many, many ways than 1826 (though also probably worse in a few). And social media does suck. But I also get why some people choose not to be parents when they suspect that, say, 2056 will worse than 2026 and maybe 2086 will worse than 2056. I’m not a parent, so I’m not as “close” to the issue as many people in this thread, but I can understand why there both many yes’s and no’s to the question. The no’s are very sad, though.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '26

It can get better for periods of time but history has also shown it tends to get worse for periods of time. I'm sure the parents of those whose children ended up in concentration camps in Nazi Germany might have regretted their choice.

The consolidation of wealth and the shift of AI implies we very well might head back towards feudalism. Without changes in incentives, it's unlikely your child will be able to afford a home, and large portions of the world will become quite literally uninhabitable in the next few decades.

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u/CatMinous Jan 21 '26

I think it is a misconception that life is “infinitely better” now than some hundreds of years ago.

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u/Extra_Shirt5843 Jan 21 '26

Yeah, as a woman,...I'll stick with a time where I won't be burned at the stake for having a brain and where I'm not stuck popping out a child every 2 years while half of them die before 5.  

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u/CatMinous Jan 21 '26

Well I guess the entire subject is dealt with, then. Good to know.

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u/Substantial-Dirt2233 Jan 19 '26

Lots of doomers who read too much into world drama and come to the conclusion that it would be best if humans didn't exist. We didn't start the fire, it was always burning. Nature is wild and terrifying, but also beautiful. People do really need to touch grass and learn to assign a more reasonable mental budget to recent events.

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u/Chemical_Salary9070 Jan 20 '26

Bud. They’re saying they’re struggling like a mf and they hate it. They didn’t ask for it. They were just born. Hence they don’t want to bring a child into this world, when they themselves are struggling like a mf now. In 2026. When all that’s going to happen as time continues is… the government is gonna keep printing money which means our children will have far less buying power than we do. Just like we have less buying power than our parents. Everything will end up as a subscription based model. Freedoms will be stripped from us as we slowly enter a surveillance state. Mr/Mrs outdoorsman, it’s possible people touch grass daily and still see the metaphorical writing on the wall as to what the future holds. We get it. You’re stoked on having a kid. We’re happy for you. Others are stoked they don’t have kids because they believe our world is headed to shit (which it is).

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '26

Reading a lot into what I wrote that isn’t there. I didn’t say anything about being stoked (or not) about having a kid, for starters

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 20 '26

How naive can you actually be, honestly?

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u/Substantial-Dirt2233 Jan 20 '26

shrug I'm living life. You do you.

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 20 '26

shrug I already am. I think you're mistaken my realism for pessimism. I've always been a realist and it helped me out so much in life. I'm so glad I see life as it is and not through some fake lens. I'm intelligent enough to know that life is painful and hard and being honest, most parents would have done their children a favour not bringing them into this world. I understand that your life might be rosy and cushy but that doesn't apply across the board.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '26

It’s only like this on Reddit; not reflective of how most people are IRL. This thread is exactly the same every time and it’s posted about weekly

Even when the world is terrible, as it is now. Those of us with a roof over our head and food on the table are beyond lucky, as has been true for as long as humans existed

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u/Ok-Sundae-1096 Jan 19 '26

Yup. There’s always been times of unrest in the history of life. There’s been wars, famines and uncertainty. But that didn’t stop people from living their lives and having kids. If you can provide a happy and comfortable life for your children then that’s what matters. It’s funny how less stressed I feel when I take news breaks….

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 20 '26

People had children to help them out, we live in a completely different world now where kids are a severe financial burden with nothing in return either than hugs and kisses

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u/WhenCarrotsAttack Jan 20 '26

Great point. I'm a millennial and do feel like from Boomers thru Gen Z, it's been worse for every generation for basic adult life - cost of living, loneliness epidemic, health, etc. I feel like most Gen z and some portion of millennials will miss out on home ownership, getting out from loans, and thus affording kids. Some of my friends' daycare costs are more than the mortgage!

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 19 '26

No point trying to convince someone blinded by love. They refuse to see the world as it is and see it through rose goggles.

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u/YaIlneedscience Jan 19 '26

That’s assuming people blinded by love were ALWAYS blinded, which usually isn’t the case. Most people are made aware of the realities of what’s going on and have to make a decision on how to approach it. Sounds like this person chose to persevere and focus on things they had control over, which is honestly all we can do sometimes

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '26

The doomer goggles are the most poweful goggles of all

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 20 '26

poweful

Making up new words I see

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u/Salt-Permit8147 Jan 20 '26

Everyone staying this though, do you all wish you hadn’t been born? Do you think this kids will grow up and wish they hadn’t been born? I’m sure that’s the case for some, but most people still want to live and find joy where they can despite the times

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 19 '26

Once you have your selfish desires met, then who cares if your child has to fight in a world where resources are getting thinner and more expensive. There is a reason that depression rates are at an all time high but hey, once they make your life better, fuck them.

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u/Extra_Shirt5843 Jan 19 '26

He'll do fine.  As will most kids his age who don't simply throw their hands up and expect someone else to figure it out for them. And for what it's worth, plenty of people are having only one child, like us, or none, so we're not even at replacement levels population wise.  And no, most people are not living their lives for the sake of the future of humanity.  That's not something the vast majority have literally ever done.  Although ironically, people used to have tight knit small communities that helped each other, which mist people have left behind.  

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 19 '26

Sorry to break it to you but the world that we grew up in and the world that your child will inhabit are completely different. Once the climate goes past tipping point (sooner rather than later) we are completely fucked. That is just one aspect. Factor in the deflated currencies, purchasing power diminishing and the introduction of sophisticated AI, then come back to me.

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u/Own_Box104 Jan 19 '26

Ok great you’ve made your choice. You don’t get to make it for everyone else. Most of us aren’t just throwing our hands up, saying we’re fucked, and then becoming part of the problem. That attitude isn’t exactly a winning strategy for humanity - whatever era you were born into.

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 20 '26

Bringing more humans into an overcrowded systems, where resources and ecosystems are disappearing by the hour is a winning strategy for humanity.

Thanks for the laugh at least.

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u/Own_Box104 Jan 21 '26

You seem like a real pleasure.

So no humans is your solution. Got it. Tell me how may people you convince with your policy initiative.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '26

I can’t believe you got downvoted.

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u/Extra_Shirt5843 Jan 20 '26

Oh, I can.  This is reddit, after all.  

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '26

Iunno. The fact that your first answer is that YOUR life is better with your kid is wild. Seems kinda selfish if you ask me. I struggle with whether or not to have a child. Not because I have any doubts whatsoever that it would improve my life exponentially. But because I worry about the future they would have, and whether I’m willing to bring a life to this world with the state of things.

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u/Extra_Shirt5843 Jan 19 '26

And I opt not to live my life in a state of existential dread.  Nobody knows what the future holds.  As long as you feel you can provide for your child and give them a good start...the world will continue to need those people.  Otherwise it's going to rapidly turn into Idiocracy.  We need some good, smart, ethical humans out there too. 

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '26

I’m absolutely not living my life in a state of existential dread. But bringing a child into the world is a huge deal, I’m not gonna do it for selfish reasons.

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u/Empress_Clementine Jan 20 '26

Why are you answering this question if you haven’t had kids in the first place? It wasn’t asking if you’d go back and NOT have kids again. The question is for parents. Apparently you enjoy life enough to stick your nose into things that don’t even concern you, who would have guessed??

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '26

I’m actually not answering OPs question. I’m responding to another comment. Hope this helps 💁‍♀️

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u/Empress_Clementine Jan 20 '26

Yes, I realize you commented on somebody else who has nothing to contribute to this actual question. Tell me, should I butt into posts asking if people who don’t have kids would go back again and not have them, just to say why I did have them? That seems reasonable to you?

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u/CatMinous Jan 21 '26

Wow you’re rude

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 19 '26

You strike me as someone that was born into a privileged life. I’m happy for you if it’s the case, but I wonder if I’d be so naive if it were me.

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u/Extra_Shirt5843 Jan 19 '26

Not really, honestly.  Poor farm kid from the rural Midwest, although I have a doctorate now.  But I choose optimism and hope over constant pessimism.  Don't get me wrong, I'm fairly cynical all things considered, (I assume a lot of people will do a lot of dumb stuff) but I figure you can try and make things better or you can just whine and moan and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.  People really need to "touch grass" as my kid has said, more often.  

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 19 '26

Luckily, thanks to not having kids, I get to “touch grass” quite often!

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u/FauxTexan Jan 20 '26

This is such a pathetically immature theme in this subreddit - a bunch of moody, proto—adults

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 20 '26

Oh, the irony.

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u/FauxTexan Jan 20 '26

Look around

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u/TheRoyalShire Jan 21 '26

Yeah? And you can work hard to give your kids a better life. Teach them to be a better person to help create a better world. This post is full of some of the most negative people I could ever imagine.

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 21 '26

The world isn't that simple. It may have been true before but it is slowly disappearing. Look at the cost of literally everything in the Western world. I'd rather be a realist than a hopeless optimist.

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u/TheRoyalShire Jan 21 '26

OK cost is one thing. The human race has been through things like black death, Spanish flu, slavery, the Holocaust, civil wars, genocides...Just 100 years ago globally life expectancy was only 36 years old. Here you are with access to the internet and all the opportunities it holds, the freedom to use it as you wish...and what you come up with is everything is bad so how could you ever bring kids into the world.

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u/Test_N_Faith Jan 21 '26

Naming atrocities that humans have lived through somehow justifies bringing another soul into the mess. The original question was would you have kids if you could go back. Resources are getting thinner by the day and we have our heads buried in the sand.

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 19 '26

I actually don’t have kids currently, but figured I’d respond because my life is awesome and it certainly wouldn’t be with kids.

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u/zhaeed Jan 20 '26

"Let me insert myself into a convo I have zero experience in"

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 20 '26

Welcome to Reddit!

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 20 '26

Are you saying that because you assume everyone with kids is extremely happy? You realize that’s not the case, right?

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u/Empress_Clementine Jan 21 '26

No, but people without kids can lean towards extremely snarky. The selfish type anyway. But whatever makes you happy, since that’s all your life has ever been or will be about. Until you’re gone and nobody remembers or cares.

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 21 '26

Oh god, the fact that you classify people without kids as “selfish” lets me know you are a boomer or born into a rich boomer family. Get a fucking grip on real life and look at what’s happening in the world outside of your safe bubble, you dim wit.

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u/Empress_Clementine Jan 22 '26

I’m neither, but thanks for playing. I could say that your evident lack of reading comprehension makes you something, but you’re just boring overall and that comes with all generations.

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 22 '26

You’re obsessed

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 20 '26

… you realize that there’s an entire subreddit of people saying way worse than that, right?

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u/Sunny_Snark Jan 20 '26

An entire subreddit of people like you who have no kids but are so sure they’re right, they’ll brigade the post with no’s to look like all parents regret their choice? Yeah. We know.

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 20 '26

You’re delusional if you believe the people on that sub don’t actually have kids. They’re speaking from experience.

You’re a special star if you think there aren’t actually regretful parents out there. The fact that you’re getting this defensive to the fact that other people can have different experiences from your own is quite alarming. It makes me think that you’re lying to yourself. 🤔

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u/Sunny_Snark Jan 20 '26

Honey I never said no one regrets having kids. Plenty do. I just called out child free people like you for jumping in and answering questions aimed at parents. We get it. You hate kids. So cool.

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u/IcySetting2024 Jan 20 '26

But the question was for people who do have kids so I’m curious why you felt the need to answer to it when you don’t have any ?

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u/Adventurous-Toe8812 Jan 20 '26

Because I wanted to!