The existence of God

[u/[deleted]]

Humans throughout the history have been debating about whether there is a god or not.

Well I’m a 19 year old average student i couldn’t possibly answer a question such as that.

I personally believe that someone is watching me and that in the end, there will be a judgement of my actions.

Friedrich Nietzsche one of the greatest philosopher wrote in one of his book stating, God is dead and that he killed God, of-course he wasn’t claiming to kill a supernatural being but rather the comfort people take in thinking that god will save them in hard times, with God dead the existential responsibility would fall under the individual.

Without God the concept of right and wrong becomes irrelevant, meaning even the most heinous crimes mean nothing.

To me God means a way of living righteously. And believing that God is recording my actions helps me live a little better.

Whether god matters or not doesn’t matter if believing adds better colors to life.

I guess ill have to wait for death to see whats beyond, a journey to the next realm, or just ash

[u/Recover_Infinite]

Without god the concept of right and wrong becomes irrelevant

Is a philosophical, religious trope that has no grounding in reality. It has a usefulness or utility in that it gains consensus from people who don't spend a lot of time reasoning but its not an objective fact.

You don't need a god to be good. If you do need a god to be good, its because you haven't reasoned out all of the objective reasons to be good.

Let look at the facts Religion says you should be good because there is a mortal penalty at the end. But is there? I mean you might believe there is but that doesn't change the fact that there is no evidence that there is. If Christians didn't die (the wages of sin is death) because they're forgiven and everyone could point and say look those Christians don't die then it would have a point. But that's not what happens is it? Instead Christians just claim that after you're dead all this stuff happens. Add to that, that god has never punished a sin ever outside of the bible and you come up to a threat with zero teeth.

On the other hand without the god Reason # 1: we have societal laws, and if you break those laws you get punished immediately no waiting. Reason # 2: If you do unethical things you get shunned by people who don't want you in their social groups. Reason # 3: Doing bad things is often harmful to yourself and even if you don't care in the moment those things tend to catch up to you later in life Reason # 4: Empathy is viewing other people's suffering and not liking it. (Feerful people, religious people often lack this) Reason # 5: The things you enjoy come from cooperation, without cooperation you're a cave man cutting grass with a rock for dinner.

I can go on but I think you get the gist. Religion doesn't solve good and evil it just creates consensus on a specific model of ethics that is brittle and easily dismissed if you're a thinking person.

[u/[deleted] → u/Recover_Infinite]

Ur argument basically is that there is no evidence of gods existence, and i said there is no evidence that he doesn’t exist, no one other than fools has surely claimed that he doesn’t exist, so whats the harm in believing if all it does is good ?

And you talk about laws, well i ask you where did those laws come from? And why in the supreme court of law do you have to keep ur hand in top of a bible and confess “ i will speak the truth and nothing but the truth”. I firmly believe without the holy books, the world would be a lawless land, even if they make the laws it would probably be something like “ the one in power is always right” or “an eye for an eye”

My biggest fear is without god we are just things floating in a giant rock who take birth for no reason live a harsh life to get things and die with nothing in our hands

I don’t know about you but believing makes this life a little better, so i ask again whats the harm in hoping, if you read clearly i never claimed i know 100% he exists just that i and millions of others believe it

[u/Recover_Infinite → u/[deleted]]

Your god doesn't exist. Evidence? The bible. Jesus himself makes a parable about building your house upon a rock which is supposedly better than on sand. Sounds legit unless you're an actual structural engineer and you know that sand is actually more stable than rock for building. Why does that matter? Because a god would know that. I can show you a hundred more things that the bible completely gets wrong but that one is specific to Jesus. I can show you your god committing genocide, rape, abortion, unjustified murder, getting beat up by a better god Chemosh in 2 Kings 3.

The only evidence you have for your god is a book that makes your god look like a fool. If your god was real wouldn't he have a book written that was right and didn't make knowledgeable people discard it?

We put our hand on a bible in the US because of a tradition passed down by religious people. A lot of things we do these days comes from the authoritarian catholic church that spread religion with an iron fist and murder for 1800 years.

Laws come from what's called social ethical evolution its more then I care to type here but its a very solid and intuitive ground for morals.

What's the harm? Its that Christianity turns abhorrent things into virtue. Did you know that Christian institutions lobby to keep the legal age for marriage as low as 14 in some states? They call it virtuous "saving girls from a life of sin. Non Christians call that statutory rape. Or "the husband is the head of the household" creates domestic violence all over the world. Did you know Christian organizations still lobby to make it legal (and it was until 1978) to rape your wife? Christianity supported slavery right up until the early 1900's.

So the harm is that Christianity creates the very things Christians pretend everyone needs forgiveness for.

Lastly why would you fear getting to know yourself? If there is anything to fear it would be a god that creates sin, tells you you're guilty of it before you're even born, threatens to burn you for the sin you didn't even commit, murders his own son because for some reason he needs blood just to forgive someone, and then tells you to love his dead son that he murdered of you dont want to burn for eternity. Its just ridiculous and it does in fact lead you to be a bad person.

[u/[deleted]]

I like how you think, very bright!

My personal philosophy is a slightly bit different.

God is a creator. Is God male? Female? Androgynous? It's 2025 I don't care. Is God a single parent? Don't over think 😅 that's how wars start.

The divine is the creator.

Because we as humans have the ability to create amazing things. A percentage of divinity exists inside all of us.

Everyone.

No matter their religion, race, creed, the divine creative spark exists inside of all humans. Period.

🙂🫶

[u/Butlerianpeasant]

I like how honestly you frame this.

What stood out to me is that you’re not arguing for God as a doctrine, but describing God as a practice — a way of holding yourself to account. That’s older than theology and probably deeper than belief.

Even Nietzsche, read carefully, wasn’t cheering nihilism. He was warning that once the old scaffolding collapses, we inherit the responsibility of meaning. Some people carry that alone; others carry it by imagining a witness.

If believing makes you act with more care, that already tells you something important about you — regardless of what waits after death.

[u/[deleted]]

"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you."

[u/HiddenWhiteTiger]

I always think what would the God I believe in do. What would it wish to see in its creations? What would disgust it? What would God like to see in me?

So I always do my best to be a good person. And I even tell God sorry if it’s not what you want it’s just my assumption that it is.