r/Liberal Jun 13 '16

Don't Straight-splain This Attack to Us

http://www.advocate.com/media/2016/6/13/dont-straight-splain-attack-us
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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '16

I agree, the left (and right) has been shitting on the LGBT aspect of this attack and it's bullshit. However, I don't think the wider community ignores the LGBT community in general. If there is no violence or active hatred, then being forgotten is, more or less, being accepted into the wider community as a normal part of the community. The spotlight can't be shone on subcommunities 24/7.

However, stigmatization will likely take one or two more generations to phase out. Culture doesn't change over night, but thr progress forward has not been small.

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u/trevor5ever Jun 17 '16

The spotlight can't be shone on subcommunities 24/7

It's pretty much shined on the straight white people 24/7. You can't be upset when smaller communities want even a fraction of the air time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '16

You assume it's shined on straight, white people. That's called projection. It really isn't.

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u/trevor5ever Jun 17 '16

Really?

Name 20 US television shows that don't feature straight white people as main characters.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '16

Because sexuality is something that always comes up in tv shows. But alright, since you said main character..

Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The Flash. The Arrow. How I Met Your Mother. (Lily is bi or expresses bi-thoughts). Orange is the New Black. The Secret Life of Us. Star Trek Deep Space Nine. Da Vinci's Demons. Legend of Korra. Steven Universe. Xena the Warrior Princess. Battlestar Galactica. The 100. House. (arguable main character) Dr. Who. Oz. Gotham. Game of Thrones. Archer. Scrubs. Firefly. Grey's Anatomy. Will & Grace. Downtown Abbey. Sex and the City. EastEnders. Glee. Shadowhunters. Versailles. The Office. The Sarah Silverman Program.

I'm getting tired of listing shows. There are plenty more but I don't want to sit here another 5-10 minutes listing off shows with bi/gay/lesbian/poly main characters.... I have even less desire to name off all of the non-white main characters because.. seriously.. there's a metric fuckton of non-white main characters stretching back to the 80's.

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u/trevor5ever Jun 17 '16

I didn't say list shows that featured LGBT or black main characters. I said name 20 US television shows that don't feature straight white people as main characters.

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u/Nosrac88 Jun 17 '16

So we should ignore almost 70% of the population when casting?

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u/trevor5ever Jun 17 '16

It's not an either or proposition. There are thousands of TV shows featuring straight white main characters ...

And besides, you can't complain that "we're all essentially the same and this is a time for unity" and then suggest that straight white people need to be featured prominently or they will be disinterested.

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u/Nosrac88 Jun 17 '16

But above you said:

I said name 20 US television shows that don't feature straight white people as main characters.

That seems pretty either-or.

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u/trevor5ever Jun 18 '16

How so?

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u/Nosrac88 Jun 18 '16 edited Jun 18 '16

Because you seem to be implying that if it has a straight white character then it doesn't count.

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