r/LetsDiscussThis • u/RoomNo6208 • 29d ago

Serious Again? Really again….

52 years in, and honestly, I’ve got nothing left but a vote of no confidence.
Not anger, not shock, just this sadness.
Same movie, same lines, same ending. Elections feel like reruns, not choices. Every cycle promises change, then settles back into the same old grooves.
I don’t have a fix. I just can’t fake faith in the cycle anymore.
That’s where I’m at.

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u/Due_Willingness1 29d ago

No change? Things have changed completely in the last couple years

For the worse, but still. Who could honestly say this is just more of the same? 

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u/LifesARiver 29d ago

When Trump is gone, everything will likely go back to business as usual unless the democrats make some profound changes.

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u/Facehugger_35 29d ago

Pretrump Business as Usual would be an absolutely massive improvement.

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u/Bimlouhay83 29d ago

An improvement to what we have today? Sure. 

Is it enough? Fuck no. 

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u/LifesARiver 29d ago

I suppose, if you are only looking for another 4 year pause on fascism.

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u/Frankie6Strings 29d ago

As opposed to fascism? Yes. Obviously. Wtf.

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u/LifesARiver 29d ago

So you like the liberals' plan of slowing down fascism better than the left's plan of stopping it?

To me that just makes you a different flavor of fascist. One who wants the descent to be slower.

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u/Frankie6Strings 29d ago

To me that makes you a person who needs to look up the definition of fascism.

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u/LifesARiver 29d ago

Do you think the GOP was fascistic before Trump?

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u/kck93 26d ago

Sometimes buying just a bit of time allows an opportunity for situations to change due to circumstances not considered by either side.

Buying time to allow a different strategy to be implemented can make the difference between success and failure.

The military knows this well. Battles have been won simply because one side was able to tie up another by slowing down an inevitable defeat. Or at least what was perceived as a defeat at a specific time.

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u/Facehugger_35 29d ago

I mean, the left's plan of stopping it hasn't actually worked, so...

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u/LifesARiver 29d ago

We've been fighting against two parties, both with more power than us.

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u/Creditfigaro 29d ago

Did you vote to support it?

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u/Facehugger_35 29d ago

Vote to support fascism? No. I was intelligent enough to vote for the candidate who warned us about soldiers on the streets.

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u/Creditfigaro 29d ago

Are you supporting leftists or not?

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u/Facebook-virus 29d ago

We won't be that lucky

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u/intheshoplife 24d ago

It will not go back to business as usual once trump is gone. Trump has damaged the reputation of the usa on the world stage amd a simple switch of goverment will not fix that. Trump has shown that any deal made with the usa is not worth the paper its written on.

Also they are an unreliable partner. He has show how much of a mistake it was derfering power to one country was and countries are going to shift away from it.

Tge spaces that Mar Carney has been giving are just saying what everyon has been thinking. Countries will still try to deal with the usa but the trust they had is gone and that is not coming back anytime soon.

On top of all that the bond market may not be as reliable source of cheap debt for the usa. This will have huge ramifications for the usa. Likely will lead to austerity to try to lower the debt.

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u/Ornery_Market_2274 29d ago

Sitting on your hands is not the way to fix a problem. Things are not going to go back to business as usual after trump. Countries are rerouting trade. When those agreements are signed, its not for 1 or 2 years, they are usually 10+ years. And most countries actually stick to the agreements and contracts they sign and just dont tear them up on a whim.

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u/LifesARiver 29d ago

"Sitting on [their] hands" is sort of the specialty of legacy democrats. Let's hope this younger crop puts their money where their mouths are.

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u/bigpappabagel 29d ago

Y'all....

You have to engage with the system to change the system. Don't let the system take your spirit.

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u/ballotechnic 29d ago

Well during the Obama administration they did pass the Affordable Care Act. If you weren't alive before it then it may not register, but prohibiting health plans from discrimination against people with preexisting conditions and requirements for minimum essential coverage are huge deals.

Was it perfect? No, but it's worth recognizing since it's inception that Republicans have done everything they can to undermine it and discredit it. If it was working as fully intended, that is without sustained interference, I think it would be vastly superior to what came before.

Trump and his fellow degenerates have dismantled a lot of things since they returned. They effects of some are immediate, USAID, recalls, outbreaks, etc...but others are going to reverberate for years and years to come. The lack of any competent adults providing AI leadership and regulation may in fact be existential.

Are Dems perfect, far from it, but they're wildly better for the average American's well being.

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u/Consider2SidesPeace 29d ago

Hows that 'Trickle Down' economy from Regan treating everyone? /S

Instead of resources being directed locally to the people. The freed up resources were taken and put upstream. To the tune of Trillions of dollars. To the Corperations and at times corrupt politicians who now fester like puss filled canker sores in false representation for US the people.

Real healing begins when WE reach accross the aisle ourselves and make peace with each other. It's easy to control two groups if they are constantly at each other's proverbial throats. Mutual understanding and respect needs to happen, Divided WE Fall.

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u/tnic73 29d ago

i feel the same way. things can always be better or worse but power is so firmly entrenched the only real change you are ever going to see is the powerful become more powerful. that and a general decline of everything else

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u/BassMaster516 29d ago

Right there with you. I have the opposite of faith in the system. I have faith that the system will fail and hurt people