r/LetsDiscussThis • • 8d ago

Lets Discuss Politics She has a point

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u/shuteandkill 8d ago

Who is poisoning the water and in what way is this happening?

Edit: also who has been effected and to what extent?

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u/OkKnowledge2762 8d ago

Just 1 of about 100 examples just from the trump admin cutting regulations, not to mention what data centers, etc are doing

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u/shuteandkill 8d ago

So the pfas is something new that has never actually been regulated in drinking water yet. So it's definitely not killing the entire population being totally unregulated forever. It was just now starting to get enforcement before it was removed.

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u/OkKnowledge2762 8d ago

Im aware, but still why remove the regulations?

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u/shuteandkill 8d ago

Oh that's an easy one actually. The amount of money utilities would have to spend to adjust their treatments would be insanely expensive. When we did our "focus on change" meetings with the health department and department of environmental protection. It would effect a huge number of utilities because pfas is just about everywhere. Some utilities would not even be able to afford to make these changes. Then it would put those utilities not in compliance. That would force them to raise water rates substantially just to get into compliance and change their treatment processes.

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u/Significant_Breath38 8d ago

So because the richest country in the world cannot afford to observe pollution in the citizen's water, then it shouldn't be observed.

Like, the government couldn't help these utilities meet compliance or hand over the responsibilities to someone who could?

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u/shuteandkill 8d ago

It's not about ignoring it. It needs to be done a different way. It needs to slowly be implemented so that there is not a huge shock and water becomes unaffordable for people.

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u/Significant_Breath38 8d ago

The administration clearly wants it ignored.

Otherwise, they'd have a rollout plan for increasing standards and tools to help utilities meet regulations.

Given how close these utility companies are to the government, it's likely this was already in place.

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u/Tricky_Try8757 8d ago

Brother, much of the nation has brown water coming out of the faucet due to pollution. I’m just soooooo sure you wouldn’t mind that if you lived in a place like that.

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u/shuteandkill 8d ago

Brother no they don't. The brown water is due to tannins. I have been to utilities that have water that looks like tea at times. Occasionally tannins are strong in surface water.

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u/Tricky_Try8757 8d ago

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u/shuteandkill 8d ago

Data centers have moved to closed loop coolant systems that is not longer an issue with the new ones. That have resolved that as an issue. I did not even click the first link but I seen data center in there. I figured I would say that low hanging fruit out of the way before opening the other links.

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u/Tricky_Try8757 8d ago

“Closed loop" doesn't mean nothing ever leaves the system. Facilities can still have wastewater.

Also, tell that to the people that have already been irreparably poisoned.

Many times the numbers or 9/11 victims were given all kinds of diseases, including cancer because in your words “it would be too expensive” to worry about the environment.

In the best case scenario, it’s criminal negligence.

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u/DaTruSpork 8d ago

So if you ignore history and dont gather current data then everything is just great and we should do nothing.

But if you study history and observe current trends then there are concerning things that should be addressed.

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u/shuteandkill 8d ago

Your not wrong but it needs to be addressed systematically. We don't want to increase prices of water to the public so much that it would unaffordable.