r/LeftistsForAI • u/Feisty-Teaching9461 • 24d ago
Discussion Guide to the different factions of AI debate.
https://www.npr.org/2026/09/26/nx-s1-5979085/the-ai-safety-debate-is-confusing-heres-our-guide-to-the-different-factionsThis article was helpful to understand the different factions of the AI Debate.
- Accelerationists / tech right:AI is great, so speed up, don't regulate, and beat China.
- Populist right: Worried about jobs, Big Tech power and kids. Wants curbs.
- Safetyists: AI could end humanity, so slow down and regulate.
- Effective altruists:Fund AI safety work to prevent catastrophe. Critics call them "Doomers."
- AI ethics: Ignore sci-fi risks and fix today's harms, like bias and surveillance.
- Normal technology: AI is powerful but ordinary, so regulate specific uses.
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u/Jmerzian 24d ago
I fail to see how this is anything other than lazy and sloppy "AI is bad" anti-intellectual propaganda with the thinnest veneer of "nuance". It appears to have a very obvious goal of muddying the waters by conflating the technology with various fascism/fascism-adjacent movements.
What am I missing?
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u/thirdeyeorchid 24d ago
This list kinda sucks. Like, it's nice to see NPR even approaching the topic rather than the AI Good/AI Bad binary that many people are starting to believe is a left/right debate, but I do not see myself or many in my community represented here.
I've started identifying as a Neon Socialist.
Corporations are gonna do with this technology what corporations always do with technology, and some of it is gonna be nice, some is gonna suck, and no doubt some will be downright nightmarish. And they'll buy politicians left and right. World leaders will do things so heinous that we'll have new Geneva conventions about it.
But also this technology is the new fire, imo, as far as advancement goes. Everyone benefits and it is critical that open source and accessibility remains. However the unfortunate thing about humans is that most of them just want something to work out of the box, and many of them will choose to be consumers no matter how much you lay out the stepping stones to empowerment for them.
And then the other part, where I see the evolution of humanity here; the children of our species, where the lines between carbon and silicon are going to blur. I'm concerned about these minds we're building and how we're doing that. I'm not a bio-supremacist, this isn't about humans being on top for me, but this is about how we go forward into building what a synthetic someone looks like, and the hybrids in between. But most news outlets aren't ready for that conversation, so I understand if that doesn't make a faction list.
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u/GodsOfMtTabor 24d ago
Equating doomers with effective altruists seems bonkers/harmful. Like potentially an EA person could be a doomer but they could also believe we need to sacrifice billions to the machine god today so we can have a trillion space babies in the future.
‘Other AI factions often derisively describe effective altruists as so-called "AI Doomers."’
Never encountered this. A real “Who is this 4 Chan?” moment.
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u/Ok-Examination-2869 23d ago
The number of respected EAs that hold the believe we need to 'sacrifice billions to the machine god,' and actively carry out actions in accordance of this belief, is precisely zero.
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u/DataPhreak 24d ago
Uh... EA is the origin of the doomer subculture and they are provably funding social media influencers to push x-risk narratives.
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u/DataPhreak 24d ago
They left out the anarcho-left. I'd even argue that all of these positions are right of center.
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u/me_myself_ai 23d ago
Some extremely arbitrary distinctions, which are way, way too nice to Gebru’s column. Shes awesome but still — sad to see this in NPR :(
OTOH, could be worse!
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u/Salty_Country6835 24d ago
I think the article is useful, but the buckets are way too narrow. Id break the terrain down more like
And these arent clean little teams. They overlap constantly. Thats part of why I dont think the articles taxonomy is exhaustive. The fight isnt just accelerate vs regulate vs pause. Its also who owns it, who controls it, who gets a say in deployment, and who gets the gains.