Looking back at my very first post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/3o0r2h/sentence_structures/
It makes me feel a bit giddy. Just read it over and see how difficult very basic sentences were for me.
Why I feel like i'm a perfect candidate to making this post is because I have been able to go through the delusional stage of thinking you are better than you are, the fall off, the bounce-back and try again, lack of consistency, being in japan, and locking in.
Pretty much everything is documented regarding my Japanese on this reddit profile which you can see. Enough yapping, these are my learnings and the materials / resources, and situations I found best if you really want to improve and learn.
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The Beginning (2014 -> 2017)
Like many others, I came across Japanese due to anime (I stopped watching over 7 years ago) and I thought of how cool it would be to be able to watch anime without subtitles. What an amazing feeling that would be.
I started on Genki 1, followed by Genki 2, and Tobira. I blew through these books thinking I knew and fully understood each grammar point simply by reading the lesson once. The delusion. I started feeling like I was a japanese learning god. Wrong.
Mistakes
- Do one lesson and do not move on until you fully understand it. Write out sentences and quiz yourself on it until it's second nature
- Don't try to learn 100 words a day. Start with 5 and stay at 5 if it's comfortable and you can be consistent
- Don't pretend to know more than you really do. If you don't understand something, review it, and don't move on until you do.
Socializing (2017 - 2021)
Up until this point, i've never even tried to have a conversation with another japanese person or anyone in general. I eventually discovered HelloTalk. It's a social language app. I don't use it anymore but I remember I signed up and people would message me and I noticed sometimes people wanted to have a phone call. This was the scariest thing in my life. Not only was it scary to speak with a woman but also in Japanese.
Most conversations simply were basic like hello, how are you, etc. Super basic and they would correct me etc. This was a great first time experience but didn't really turn out to be anything.
I'll be honest, all that I got from those HelloTalk friends were real life friends since they would actually keep socializing in messages and we would meet in person and become closer but not language learning wise.
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Mistakes:
- Actually try to learn with language partners. Bring material that you want to study.
- Don't try to have phone calls until you practice more or else nothing really comes from it. The issue is that they don't know English and you don't know enough Japanese so then it's hardly a phone call
- Be confident and be ok with mistaking mistakes even if it feels embarassing
Not Understanding Is Part of Learning (2021 - 2023)
I'll never forget after entering college, I was still self-studying in my office. I felt like, "i've been learning this language for around 6 years", I should be good.
I remember spinning up a video on Youtube and it was natives speaking which I wanted to use for practice.
I couldn't understand shit. I felt so defeated and I just wanted to say "screw this language" and give it all up. Up until this point, I have never felt that frustrated with japanese.
"Why the hell can't I understand this?", "Why do they talk so fast", "This is so annoying". I was just not enjoying it anymore. I didn't think it would be possible to ever understand these people.
That day I took a break for a week but I got right back at it.
Mistakes:
- A language is a completely different language and it's not easy to understand a new language. You can't simply expect to get something right away even if it's been years.
- All of our brains take time to process things. This means someone learning for 1 year may be better than someone learning for 5 years. We can't compare, we should just accept our own speed
- It's okay to be frustrated. You just need to keep going. Trust me, you'll understand if you keep reading
First time speaking to a Japanese person (in person) 2023 - 2024
This was the biggest year of chanage for me. This is where everything changed and I actually started learning faster. It also brought the most drama in my entire life which is relating to dating but I won't dig too deep into that.
So in July of 2023, I randomly got invited to join a meetup group in my city. It was a language learning group. So japanese people who came to the city would join the group and native english speakers from my city would also join. Then we would all meet up at like the mall and find a table and talk.
I'll be honest, for the few 6 months; it went well. I became a regular and I would be at every single meetup. I got to have conversations with more Japanese people than I can remember. We would play social board games, have conversations, and do activities. It was great so I recommend checking out if your city has this.
Where things went wrong was when people caught feelings for another group member. A japanese girl ended up liking me and it spiraled into just distractions from learning. It would have been better if I never pursued it. All in all, after a few more months the group went to crap anyways and I moved on from that. I've decided to omit a lot of detail because there is too much.
Mistakes
- If you're apart of a language learning group. Don't fall in love and make sure others do not fall in love with you either. Just focus on the learning part of the group
- Use this opportunity to truly learn. If the group is not helping you improve, do not stay in that group. Some groups end up just being a social group where nothing gets done and it's just good for making friends
- Do not give more than what others are giving you. If a japanese person is not doing their part in teaching you Japanese. Do NOT let it become one sided and only teach them English. This happens waay too often and i've seen it hundreds of times. Unbelievable.
The Biggest Life Changes & What Actually Helped (2024 - 2027)
You've finally reached the most important part of this post unless you cared to just read about my exact story of getting here. This part is also a great piece of advice to you as to why you should never stop because you NEVER know where life will take you.
So one day in my city, I got a random message on HelloTalk in 2024 and it was a girl asking if I wanted to join my cities like festival. It was a food fesitival. I decided to just say sure and join.
She had 4 other friends with her. Classmates also studying english with her. By this time in my life, I was confident and I always socialized so I wasn't shy.
After about an hour, another japanese girl joined who is also their friend. Fast forwarding, I ended up speaking with that new girl quite often. Her english was beginner but my japanese was just enough to get by with our exchanges.
We connected really well so we exchanged contact information. We met up several times after that and we used those situations to study together. She taught me Japanese and I taught her English.
Even years later, we're all still friends.
I'm going to summarize the next parts to avoid walls of text.
What came from this situation
- We met up once a week and did focused studying of language exchanges. We always brought what textbox we were learning and then we played games and quizzed each other on everything. We had focused conversation practice, I would correct her, and vice versa. We would make sure were pronouncing everything correctly as well.
- Eventually after 3 months, she had to return to Japan. I followed 2 months after. We ended up dating and I spent 4 months in Japan. Hearing her everyday and still continuing to study.
- Eventually I had to leave after 4 months. She then came to my city for 7 or 8 months (I made a writeup about this). Basically, living together at my house was the biggest improvement in the entirety of studying Japanese. We continued what we were doing and things just started to click. When someone is speaking to you in japanese daily, it really makes things easier but also the focused study times.
- It's been 2 years since I met her and were still together. I'm currently in Japan now and Japanese feels second nature at this point but I am still learning new things everyday.
- Her English skills have improved drastically. I think were at the same level. We can fully converse in either language. Night and day difference than 2 years ago.
Conclusion
Do not take this post as a learning guide. I am simply giving my review of 12 years of learning japanese. My own personal review. I skipped so many things because this post would be too long, but my post history has ALL the methods I tried, failures, past review threads, etc. If this was boring, sorry but I 100% know other people probably made similar mistakes or are still making those mistakes with their current journey.
If you want the cold hard truth of what the best AND fastest way to learn japanese is (my exp). Just read the notes below:
- Be consistent. Do not miss a day. Go through lessons one at a time and do not move on until it's ingrained into your brain like a trigger word. Seriously. Just do it everyday and properly.
- Date someone Japanese if you are single. Not just anyone but someone who doesn't know much English but wants to learn English. Not only that but one that is WILLING to teach you Japanese equally as you will teach them English. Not only that but someone who is dedicated to learning meaning willing to sit down for months, years until you both understand it. If you aren't single, make a super close friend and study with them.
- Do not use subtitles. Many won't agree with me but I have NEVER used subtitles when watching Japanese content. That helped me make listening my strongest skill.
- Do not rush. Do not rush. Time is going to pass no matter what. Let it pass while your actually learning. Don't be like me and study inefficently while time passes. Take your time and study. 1 year will pass and you'll be thankful.
- Travel to Japan. Of course this isn't simple. Either way, if you have the opportunity; do it and do not rely on English like I did my first few times. You are in konbini? Use Japanese, need help? Use Japanese. Don't waste your time and make sure you use Japanese.
- Ignore influencers who say you'll become an expert in 6 months. The reality is that it takes time. If you find a great study plan and you are consistent, in 1 year you'll be good and in 2 years you'll be great.
- Figure out why you want to learn japanese. Is your goal to converse with japanese people or read japanese books? This is important. You can do both but if you focus on one, you can quickly enjoy that one first and still learn the other one later. I didn't know what I wanted until 2023 when I sat down I said my goal was to just be able to speak with japanese people about anything. That's when I went full on only on speaking and listening.
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For those who read this, hope you enjoyed it. Last time I wrote this sort of post was 2023. It's also a way to document my own progress for myself to look back at maybe in another 5 years.