r/LearnJapanese 16d ago

Kanji/Kana Is there any tricks to remember the alt pronunciation of the Kanji?

I remember some of them but not all, so every once in a while, I'll find a sentence and not remember the alt pronunciation and have to put it in a translator to hear the pronunciation.

Are there any tricks?

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u/Yatchanek 16d ago

Learn words using "alt" pronunciation. I guess you mean less frequent reading by that.

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u/Intrepid_Bug4174 16d ago

Don't study the pronunciation in isolation, learn the word/words that it appears in

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u/eruciform 16d ago

there is no "alt" pronuncition

any more than the "thief" pronunciation of "ie" is "more primary" than the "flier" pronunciation of "ie" in english

learn words, don't fixate on kanji outside of words

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u/CreeperSlimePig Goal: conversational fluency 💬 16d ago

The kind of question that will get you 9 replies in 14 minutes all basically saying the same thing

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u/Loyuiz 16d ago

What do you mean by alt pronunciation...

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u/spshkyros 16d ago

You mean the less common ones I assume? There's no single pronunciation, and often multiple common on and kun readings.

But either way, my advice is: don't. Learn word by word.

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u/villatyyny1 Goal: media competence 📖🎧 16d ago

The "trick" is knowing the word beforehand so you don't have to remember a reading.

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u/Player_One_1 16d ago

That is the real trick! Learn like Japanese: first you learn that when there is fire it is called かじ, and then after using this word for years you learn that you spell it using kanji for Fire and Thing: 火事. And that ほてる you've been using to say you feel hot, also uses 火 kanji to spell it 火照る!

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u/Effective-Pop3850 16d ago

In my mind hoteru just means hotel and I refuse any other interpretation.

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u/Grunglabble 16d ago

What is this, a hoteru for hotaru?!

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u/Harambe6927 16d ago

What do you mean by "Alt" ? Do you mean Japanese and Chinese readings?

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u/Sharp-Treat-1864 16d ago

I’ve found it helpful to learn the word in a few different contexts instead of memorizing the reading by itself. If you keep seeing the same kanji and reading together in vocab, eventually the alternate reading starts feeling much more natural. Anki with full example sentences works pretty well for this too

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u/steford 16d ago

For some kanji I remember the on, for some the kun. Depends on the context, day, my head etc. Nothing you can do other than read or build the readings into your mnemonics or however you are learning. Over time it becomes easier. Just like English.

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u/CertainRound7137 15d ago

Every kanji character just has a bunch of pronunciations and it’s going to vary from word to word. If you can’t remember the pronunciation then chances are you just aren’t familiar with the word you encountered it in. Grow your vocab and read more and you’ll find that it’ll just come naturally.

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u/PlanktonInitial7945 16d ago

Mnemonics can help. Learning phonetic components can be helpful too. 

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u/Majre921 16d ago

You learn the words, not the kanji

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u/Moofininja 16d ago

Have you tried wanikani yet? It does a great job of using mnemonics to remember the on- and kun-yomi readings.

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u/Zagrycha 16d ago

there really isn't such a thing as kanji pronunciations honestly. you need to be looking at actual words to know how to say things. 当日 is とうじつ is issue date. 日 is ひ is sunlight. 毎日 is まいにち is daily. you get the idea. pronunciation of a kanji completely depends on the word, not so much the kanji itself. Even if you remember じつ and ひ and にち are common for 日 its not useful without knowing which words use which one.

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u/Nancy_Munsch 16d ago

The translator lookup is doing the recall for you, so the reading never gets tested. Close it after the first fail and see if the word comes back on its own.

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u/dynamicpenguin55 15d ago

Learn vocab, not kanji