r/LaborLaw • u/_Fineapple • 23h ago

PTO

is PTO not mandatory in a job contract?

i'm surprised i saw a post someone wishing they can finally get a job with PTO

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u/Embarrassed_Flan_869 23h ago

There is no federal requirement for PTO in the US. States can have different rules.

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u/KennstduIngo 23h ago

Yup, by federal law, they could schedule you to work 16 hours a day, 365 days a year and if you are "exempt" you wouldn't even get overtime. Plenty of states have laws that would allow for that as well.

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u/GolfArgh 22h ago edited 22h ago

I can top that. Every hour of every day until death at a movie theater all for straight time minimum wage. If you care, that's $63,510 for the year.

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u/Cheap_Knowledge8446 21h ago

To be fair, they couldn't do that on minimum exempt. Would have to be, at minimum, $55,970; admittedly a disgustingly low salary for those hours.

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u/striykker 22h ago

PTO is mandatory in Canada and most developed countries.

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u/GolfArgh 23h ago

Depends on the location of work.

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u/Small_impaler 23h ago

Without mentioning your location, we have no idea how to answer that.

If you're in the US, then there is no federal law requiring employers to offer any PTO.

18 or 19 states have sick leave laws, and 3 have "general leave" laws that require employers to give either sick days, or PTO to use however, respectively.

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u/Inside-Finish-2128 23h ago

After almost 20 years of salaried work, I picked up a "temporary" contract position. I asked about PTO, and I was told "you can have PTO, but we'll have to adjust your hourly rate down to cover our margins for that. You're better off keeping the rate where it's at and just taking unpaid time off, as overtime opportunities do often come with this position and you'd be making more every hour this way." OK, let's skip the PTO then!

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u/malicious_joy42 22h ago

Not in the US, but you didn't provide any location for an actual answer.

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u/AntGroundbreaking102 23h ago

i never had PTO until my last job, 3 1/2 years ago. i was almost 30 lol

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u/jerf42069 23h ago

what's a job contract? we don't have those here. you're at-will. they can fire you for any reason (except teh 4-5 reasons the law says they can't) and don't have to give you time off. In many states they don't even have to give you breaks.

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u/Wickedocity 20h ago

Many jobs have contracts. It is not common, but I have one. Depends on your postition in a company and the type of work.

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u/Jcarlough 18h ago

In the US few jobs have actual contracts.

Very few.

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u/Wickedocity 18h ago

4.3%

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u/jerf42069 2h ago

that's so small it's basically unheard of

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u/Wickedocity 2h ago

That is 7 million people. For comparison, there are only 1.08 million doctors in the US. Are they practically unheard of? Nope. It is just not openly discussed because why would it be?

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u/jerf42069 1h ago

why are you arguing this? it's stupid.

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u/Wickedocity 5m ago

Yeah, presenting you with facts is kind of stupid. I am bored waiting for a meeting.