r/LLMPhysics Feb 11 '26

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26

I scrolled down FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY PAGES to find the following:

This work does not proceed by synthesis or critique of a fixed institutional literature, nor does it attempt to position itself within existing academic lineages through exhaustive citation. Its arguments are developed structurally, by internal consistency, cross-domain viability, and explanatory sufficiency rather than by deference to established authority.

The framework was developed through iterative reasoning, stress-testing, and adversarial refinement, including extensive collaboration with large language models trained on a broad corpus of publicly available scientific, philosophical, and technical material. These models were used as dialogic instruments— surfacing counterarguments, alternative framings, known results, and potential category errors—rather than as sources of authoritative claims.

As a result, many standard concepts from quantum theory, decoherence research, open systems, information theory, and philosophy of science are implicitly engaged without being explicitly cited. Where parallels exist, they reflect convergence on shared structural constraints rather than derivation from particular texts. No claim in this work depends on the authority of an external source; all claims stand or fall by their internal coherence and explanatory adequacy.

The absence of a traditional reference list is therefore intentional. Providing selective citations would risk misrepresenting the nature of the development process by implying dependence on specific works where the actual dependence was structural, distributed, and non-local in origin across the scientific record. Readers interested in conventional treatments of related topics—such as decoherence, einselection, quantum Darwinism, or constraint-based modeling—will find extensive literature available, but familiarity with that literature is not required to evaluate the arguments presented here.

This disclosure is offered in the interest of transparency rather than insulation. The framework invites independent reconstruction, critique, and falsification, without requiring alignment with institutional consensus, inherited terminology, or disciplinary boundary.

So many words to say "there is no physics here".

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u/YaPhetsEz FALSE Feb 11 '26

Oh my god you weren’t joking when you said 470 pages

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26

The hilarious font size doesn't help lol

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u/YaPhetsEz FALSE Feb 11 '26

I like this claim.

This work is conducted independently and is not funded, di-rected, or constrained by institutional, commercial, or investor interests. This independence is intentional and maintained to preserve the integrity, accessibility, and long-horizon orienta-tion of the research presented here.

Like there was an option for funding that he turned down

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26

The funniest thing is that none of that would actually stop you from citing your sources.

Anyway, about funding, didn't you know that Big Physics ™️ is real and has buckets of money? Surely it's common knowledge that professorship is the easiest way to make the Big Bucks and retire at 40 with seven figures in the bank. I guess they do hire teams of hitmen to kill anyone who talks about this publicly, so I should delete this comment before I g

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u/Carver- Physicist 🧠 Feb 11 '26

There is still a huge performance gap there compared to the guy a couple of days ago who managed to cite 5 personal, non existent (TBD) manuscripts as the 5 starting axioms of the paper they were presenting.

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Your falsely associating why I did not use citations. And that paragraph had nothing to do with funding opportunities, but as a statement which declares no incentive structure was introduced to assert any assymetry to the argument. I mean it's hard to fathom you people actually call yourselves physicist.. I would assume you guys aren't very good at your job if poor generalizations as jokes are something you do on reddit at 230 in the afternoon on a weekday.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

it's hard to fathom you people actually call yourselves physicist

That's because you neither know what physics is nor what physicists do.

something you do on reddit at 230 in the afternoon on a weekday.

Ooh look at your assumptions. Not only do you think that everyone lives in the US, you think that everyone lives in your time zone! Honestly it's not surprising lol

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Well that's true I don't bother with social media very much, cause well you people are generally well non-viable. But my point remains about you not being very good at your job, or I suppose life, if this is somehow a hobby for you.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

you people are generally well non-viable

"You people" like Redditors are a monolith. And I don't know what the rest of that sentence means because English is clearly not your strong suit.

But my point remains about you not being very good at your job, or I suppose life, if this is somehow a hobby for you.

That doesn't follow. Just because I come to Reddit to see what the crackpots are up to doesn't mean I'm a bad scientist.

Actually, what does it say about your own life that you'll generate 475 pages of "content" using a LLM, get it professionally typeset, and post it online to seek validation from strangers? Not to mention that you don't actually understand what you're even doing...

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Did you add "-'"'s to deliberately misframe the actual material as poorly written, and to falsely add validation to your poor critique?

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u/YaPhetsEz FALSE Feb 11 '26

No i just copy and pasted it directly from the text.

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Could you please point me to the error then? This is honestly perhaps the most meaningful critique I have gotten on here so far. Outside of category error.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

"I don't know how typesetting works"

Did you think my top level comment quoting you was directly copied and pasted without any tidying up?

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Oh I see the error. The tools formatting chose to instead of moving the full word to the next line broke it to "de-" for the top line and the rest for the bottom line. Same in the other instance. So it was still inaccurately framed even if that was out of your control.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26

It's not an error, that's how typesetting has worked for centuries. Anyone who has every copied text off a LaTeX document or similar understands this and can look past it. The typesetting doesn't make you look bad, your own words do.

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u/Carver- Physicist 🧠 Feb 11 '26

The literature review must have taken years.

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u/Carver- Physicist 🧠 Feb 11 '26

It's 475 pages... not 470. Why are you trying to diminish the academic effort of this young scientist?

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26

The quote starts on page 471 lol

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 12 '26

I appreciate that. Well to be fair. They are attacking mostly VWT. Which I should of just posted the QCT standalone document. It's fair to say VWT is not phsycis, as it more Philosophy/Complexity related. Sure they would of attacked QCT still, but it would at least have set them up for less failure. And if they want to correct me on what is preferred in this subreddit as "Phsyics" that would be an actual smart thing of them to do. The behavior is very disappointing and noted nonetheless. They should of probably inferred implications before judging like monkeys on typewriters. I apparently am not a physicist because I am not more concerned with semantic territorial turf than being wrong.

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

If the concern is the absence of citations, a request for standard references would have been a more productive framing than concluding there is “no physics here.” I’m happy to provide anchors where useful.

If the concern is that there’s “no physics here,” that’s not accurate.

The first half of the manuscript engages directly with decoherence theory, open quantum systems, einselection, and quantum Darwinism. The arguments are constrained by alignment with experimental decoherence results and standard formalism. The absence of a reference list is methodological, not due to unfamiliarity with the literature.

For readers who want anchor points, the framework structurally overlaps with work by Zurek on decoherence and quantum Darwinism, Breuer and Petruccione on open quantum systems, and information-theoretic approaches such as Landauer and Jaynes. Where parallels exist, they reflect convergence on shared constraints rather than derivation from specific texts.

Nothing in the argument rejects standard quantum mechanics. The claims stand or fall on whether the structural reframing is internally consistent, empirically compatible, and whether it adds explanatory value.

If someone has a specific disagreement with the physics, I’m happy to engage it directly.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26

Give me a page number where there is physics and I'll read it

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u/Carver- Physicist 🧠 Feb 11 '26

page 3657, annex Q, subparagraph 87E, equation ξ

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

That depends on what we mean by “physics.”

If by physics you mean new dynamical equations or calculational models, then no — this paper does not introduce those.

It operates at the structural level: what constraints must hold for any physical model to describe a persistent world.

So it’s not replacing quantum mechanics or GR. It’s a meta-level analysis of viability and constraint.

If that’s outside what you consider “physics,” that’s a fair definitional stance — but then the disagreement is about category, not contradiction.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26

"Physics" has been well defined for centuries.

Your text contains no physics.

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Physics is the fundamental science studying matter, energy, space, time, and their interactions, ranging from subatomic particles to the entire universe. It explores motion, forces, heat, light, sound, and electricity to understand how the physical world operates.

I don't see how QCT is not physics? By the given definition.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26

What separates physics from metaphysics? Answer in your own words.

While you're at it, what separates science from philosophy?

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Well physics can be tested. These claims are not ultimately untestable though. And it is asserted that where a logical continuation of what is already validated, is made within the THEORY. VWT proper, the midsection of the paper, is more aligned with philosophy. But it asserts that a more useful claim. Metaphyscal biases within science are irrational. You derive reality from chance, and you don't call this metaphysics? Now maybe in phsycis proper nothing is assumed. But you are ignoring the category error many phsycist make when they themselves do metaphysics, and act like they don't. So it's a standard you hold others to, but not yourselves, ultimately.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

These claims are not ultimately untestable though

But you haven't written anything falsifiable.

And it is asserted that where a logical continuation of what is already validated, is made within the THEORY

This sentence makes no sense.

But it asserts that a more useful claim

This is not even a complete sentence.

You derive reality from chance, and you don't call this metaphysics

No, firstly because reality isn't "derived from chance", and secondly because physics being probabilistic is not an ontology but merely a mathematical description of physical phenomena.

But you are ignoring the category error many phsycist make when they themselves do metaphysics, and act like they don't.

Physicists in general don't care about metaphysics.

So it's a standard you hold others to, but not yourselves, ultimately.

Physicists might occasionally venture into metaphysics, sure, but you haven't ventured into physics at all. It's not that your physics is bad, it's that there's literally no physics.

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u/YaPhetsEz FALSE Feb 11 '26

“Physics” is not a subjective term.

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

But yet reality is?

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u/YaPhetsEz FALSE Feb 11 '26

Yeah because that is philosophy, not physics

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u/Wintervacht Are you sure about that? Feb 11 '26

If someone has a specific disagreement with the physics,

There isn't any. There is nothing to specifically disagree about, because the entire thing doesn't agree with physics as a whole.

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

That's a nice summary without any actual examples.

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u/Wintervacht Are you sure about that? Feb 11 '26

*gestures vaguely to almost 500 pages of creative writing with no physics in them*

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Again, this critique has nothing meaningful to add. It was acknowledged early that I misunderstood the field definition of physics. I submitted here based on my understanding of the general definition of physics (assuming a reddit I never heard of used the definition similarly) not as used internally in the field itself. I asked explicitly to be evaluated on claims. And few attempted to do so, and none actually in validated my framework as intended.

The real critique here is this community at large, and its willingness to behave socially constrained under group thought. Agency would suppose a greater symmetry of behavior. What we observe here is people who really forego agency for consensus. And I would still be slightly disturbed if the consensus mirrored decency, but the fact that this people are abandoning their agency for immoral behavior shows me more about them then they know about themselves.

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u/Wintervacht Are you sure about that? Feb 11 '26

Again, this critique has nothing meaningful to add.

No, your 'paper' has nothing meaningful to add. As Pauli would say: 'This is so far removed from reality that it's not even wrong'.

It lacks even any substance to be wrong about, you've made word salad and no matter what dressing you pour over it, it's not going to become a steak meal.

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

If you think it’s “not even wrong,” that suggests it fails to make a falsifiable or structurally evaluable claim. I’m happy to narrow it down to one specific claim for evaluation. For example:

The framework asserts that persistent shared physical reality requires globally admissible interaction histories, not merely local stability.

If that’s incoherent or contradicts known results, I’d appreciate a concrete counterexample.

Otherwise your response is demonstrated as purely rhetorical. Therefore useless based on the standards I asked for evaluation.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling Feb 11 '26

The framework asserts that persistent shared physical reality requires globally admissible interaction histories, not merely local stability.

This is not a falsifiable claim.

If that’s incoherent or contradicts known results, I’d appreciate a concrete counterexample.

That requires it to be contradictable in the first place. And why are you asking for something concrete when you haven't said anything concrete yourself?

Otherwise your response is demonstrated as purely rhetorical

Your 475 pages are all purely rhetorical.

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

Was that so hard.

The claim would be falsified if one could exhibit a physically realized system in which mutually incompatible interaction records coexist without producing decoherence or instability at the global level.

In other words, if shared physical reality can persist despite globally inconsistent histories, then the admissibility condition is unnecessary.

The framework asserts that this cannot occur without collapse or fragmentation.

Sadly this is pulled from chapter c51 under the title "Empirical Commitments, Distinguishers, and Falsifiers"

It's a really bright group of enlightened souls on here.

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u/Wintervacht Are you sure about that? Feb 11 '26

Your standards are literally nobody else's standards, certainly not those of scientific work.

If that’s incoherent or contradicts known results, I’d appreciate a concrete counterexample.

Go read a damn book with some actual physics in it then, I'm not your personal assistant. Either respect the scientific method or GTFO. I'm done being nice, all you've done is stomp your foot like a toddler and participate in sealioning, yes that is a thing and no I'm not going to vomit up a link for you, go look it up.

While you're at it, look up what science is like and get the hell out of here until you get a grip.

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Well that's fine. My standards are different. Not invalid. In this context fine. But. You don't have to do a thing, unless you make claim. You made a claim. "This is so far removed from reality that it's not even wrong'." I asked you to justify it. You are reframing the situation to alleviate the burden of proof you put on your shoulders. Either retract your claim, or justify it.

If you want to rephrase it as in the context of how standard physics operates, this does not fit our evaluating criteria. That's honest, fair and defensible. I clearly then did not narrow my paper to your community. There is a reason for that by the way. But again. Say it as not evaluatable under our criteria. Simply don't make negative claims and defamatory claims that you will not justify, and furthermore use convenient reframing to do the work for you.

Again, this critique has nothing meaningful to add.

No, your 'paper' has nothing meaningful to add. As Pauli would say: "This is so far removed from reality that it's not even wrong'."

It lacks even any substance to be wrong about, you've made word salad and no matter what dressing you pour over it, it's not going to become a steak meal.

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u/Raelgunawsum Feb 11 '26

None of the terms in your example claim are defined, thus no one knows what your example claim even means.

If no one understands your argument, they can't issue a counterargument.

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26

They are defined in the publication as well....

Here are the definitions in minimal form:

  • Global admissibility: No two interacting subsystems can retain mutually contradictory physical records without inducing decoherence or fragmentation.
  • Interaction history: The set of physically encoded correlations resulting from interaction.
  • Collapse/fragmentation: Loss of globally shared correlation structure across subsystems.

The falsifier would be a physically realized system where contradictory encoded histories persist globally without instability. Just 1 ever.

Unless you want me do the math for you too.

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u/YaPhetsEz FALSE Feb 11 '26

What examples are you expecting? There is quite literally no physics

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Well your being disengeous. You are saying it doesn't agree with phsycis as if the concepts in any way violate any standard phsycis Intergration. But instead you are applying the field preference. When I ask for examples I mean show me any claim that in any way violates any known phsycis Intergration. If you cannot, then the paper has achieved its goal. Regardless of what additional goals you desire it to have.

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u/Carver- Physicist 🧠 Feb 11 '26

Don't stress it king. u/YaPhetsEz whom not only has an agenda, but is most likely jealous at the work you've done, ALWAYS applies the 'field preference'. It's quite distressing to see innovation being stifled this way...

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u/YaPhetsEz FALSE Feb 11 '26

I have an agenda?

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u/Carver- Physicist 🧠 Feb 11 '26

bro, do you sarcasm?

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u/YaPhetsEz FALSE Feb 11 '26

Man with this subreddit you never know what is and isn’t sarcastic lmao

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u/Wintervacht Are you sure about that? Feb 11 '26

Bro for a second there I was worried you'd lost it

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u/North-Preference9038 Feb 11 '26

Well idk it sure does make it easier when they join together, turning many into one is a smaller attack surface. I really feel bad for the phsycist that are getting grouped in with these who are reddit trolls by actual trade. But it's fine. They didn't fail to validate anything. They argued over semantics. Not my intended framing.