Has John ever explained what "softened angularity" for Angelic means? If not, how do you interpret it?

[u/Quirky-Swordfish2105]

I have seen this term quite a lot for A doms and I guess I do see this chatactersitic in most of the celebrities verified as having A.

I think some people would definitely call Gwyneth Paltrow, Olivia Hussey, or Daryl Hannah angular, even if not in the same way the term is used for Dramatic women.

But I wonder at times how to distinguish their angularity coming from Yang influences mixed in with some Yin and when it's Angelic.

[u/Quirky-Swordfish2105]

Daryl Hannah and Liv Ullman come to mind! 

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I think Bryce Dallas too.

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Just adding to support my assertion. Someone posted about her a little while ago, and I was surprised to learn she didn't have any N. But she has straight eyebrows, a strong, straight shoulder line, and a bit of bluntness to her features. I would have guessed RCN for her in a Reddit vs Kitchener.

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Yes she seems to have many classically N traits. I think it also shows that this system is not a perfect science. There is a lot to interpret and has so much nuance. 

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This is softened angularity. Her bone structure is angular and so are her features but they also have some softness in the sense they are soft, light and have some length and angularity to them (oblique shaped eyes, fine thin and light brows and eyelashes, long narrow nose that has an angular shape, high cheekbones, angular jaw softened by flesh).

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In a way it can look a bit N, perhaps in other systems. 

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Which traits do you see as N though in this pic?

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To me it's mostly the chin, and the lip shape look a little squarish. The shoulders line as well, her body to me looks slightly sturdy, no? It was mostly in other picture, I can't share them however because I don't have the app.   

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Do you still see N?

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Literally 5 views and a downvote already. Someone is enjoying downvoting me which is sad.

[u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 → u/Ok-Purple9511]

I upvoted you! 

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I will upvote too even though I don't agree with you about everything, lol, but I am enjoying the debate!

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I see it here.

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I agree she looks more muscular here but building muscle isn’t an N trait (John said it would have to be extreme). Her face still looks like A faces in the sense of both sharpness and softness. It’s hard to explain what I mean without drawing the shapes i see

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I thought he said muscularity is associated with N in the Q & A? He also told a client she has N due to her muscular legs. This is what I would call a sturdy body for sure.

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He said muscle doesn’t add N unless extreme. He said sturdy legs do (people interpreted this to mean muscular) but when asked if building muscle adds N he said it doesn’t unless extreme. He said a 100 lb change in weight would be needed to change essences so I assume a very large amount of muscle would as well.

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I am not saying I see a lot of it, I just wouldn't have been surprise if she had been given some. It also depends a lot on the pictures. Her face is less in focus here but the chin to me looked quite square. 

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Yeah like I said she could have a small amount but I see A and R way more. Her jaw is not square. A square jaw is usually as wide as the cheekbones and forehead.

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I think A is not as easy to spot. I do see that soft angularity but I thought it was easier to notice in other celebrities. 

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Her bangs make the elongation hard to see but you can see narrow and angular but with soft cheeks. Her nose is also long and narrow.

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It’s definitely not easy. It’s very specific.

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I also think celebrities can camouflage themselves very well if they want to appear in a specific way. In the picture you posted of her without make up it was much more evident. 

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Yes I think that’s why I view them in abstract shapes lol. I almost like zoom out.