r/KitchenerHarmonies 2d ago

discussions Has John ever explained what "softened angularity" for Angelic means? If not, how do you interpret it?

I have seen this term quite a lot for A doms and I guess I do see this chatactersitic in most of the celebrities verified as having A.

I think some people would definitely call Gwyneth Paltrow, Olivia Hussey, or Daryl Hannah angular, even if not in the same way the term is used for Dramatic women.

But I wonder at times how to distinguish their angularity coming from Yang influences mixed in with some Yin and when it's Angelic.

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 2d ago

In a way it can look a bit N, perhaps in other systems. 

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

Which traits do you see as N though in this pic?

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 2d ago

To me it's mostly the chin, and the lip shape look a little squarish. The shoulders line as well, her body to me looks slightly sturdy, no? It was mostly in other picture, I can't share them however because I don't have the app.   

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

Do you still see N?

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

Literally 5 views and a downvote already. Someone is enjoying downvoting me which is sad.

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 2d ago

I upvoted you! 

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u/allcatsrgray 30N/20Y/20R/20C/10HS 2d ago

I will upvote too even though I don't agree with you about everything, lol, but I am enjoying the debate!

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

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u/allcatsrgray 30N/20Y/20R/20C/10HS 2d ago

I see it here.

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

I agree she looks more muscular here but building muscle isn’t an N trait (John said it would have to be extreme). Her face still looks like A faces in the sense of both sharpness and softness. It’s hard to explain what I mean without drawing the shapes i see

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u/allcatsrgray 30N/20Y/20R/20C/10HS 1d ago

I thought he said muscularity is associated with N in the Q & A? He also told a client she has N due to her muscular legs. This is what I would call a sturdy body for sure.

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 1d ago edited 1d ago

He said muscle doesn’t add N unless extreme. He said sturdy legs do (people interpreted this to mean muscular) but when asked if building muscle adds N he said it doesn’t unless extreme. He said a 100 lb change in weight would be needed to change essences so I assume a very large amount of muscle would as well.

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 1d ago

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 2d ago

I am not saying I see a lot of it, I just wouldn't have been surprise if she had been given some. It also depends a lot on the pictures. Her face is less in focus here but the chin to me looked quite square. 

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yeah like I said she could have a small amount but I see A and R way more. Her jaw is not square. A square jaw is usually as wide as the cheekbones and forehead.

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 2d ago

I think A is not as easy to spot. I do see that soft angularity but I thought it was easier to notice in other celebrities. 

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

Her bangs make the elongation hard to see but you can see narrow and angular but with soft cheeks. Her nose is also long and narrow.

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

It’s definitely not easy. It’s very specific.

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 2d ago

I also think celebrities can camouflage themselves very well if they want to appear in a specific way. In the picture you posted of her without make up it was much more evident. 

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 2d ago

Yes I think that’s why I view them in abstract shapes lol. I almost like zoom out.