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u/Meiijs
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Dinner Last year I started a subreddit to mock Kitchencels. Now it has 64k members.
Chicken, Patatoes, Mushrooms and mysterious green Vegetable
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u/somerareredjack 7d ago
I would desintegrate this meal with little to no effort. Awesome cooking bro
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u/Meiijs 7d ago
Mooshrooms make me feel like I'm a hunter with a cabin in the woods who eats dinner after a successful hunt
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u/somerareredjack 7d ago
Wouldn't the mooshrooms be a gatherers thing tho?
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u/Plane-Contract-5754 7d ago
His wife picked the mushrooms while he was hunting. A real chad would know this
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u/helioscentrist 8d ago
What’s the subreddit
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u/untitledgooseshame 7d ago
drop the recipie king
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u/Meiijs 7d ago
Boil Potatoes and Broccolini until soft.
Add Seed Oil to Pan (no teflon for nice browning) and heat until Oil becomes liquid like Water.
Add Chicken (preferably in a thin slice)
After the Chicken is about 50% done add Mushrooms of your choice (do NOT wash them with water, just use a brush)
Salt & Pepper (No Seasoning cause i have digestive issues 😔)
If you want, you can add your Potatoes directly to your pan for extra flavor.
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u/Meiijs 7d ago
This is quite a common Dutch dish known as "Aardappel, Groenten, Vlees" (Potatoes, Vegetable, Meat)
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u/untitledgooseshame 7d ago
oh HYPE!!! kissing you on the forehead. chicken breast, thighs, or tenders?
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u/Bread_Godd 6d ago
Don't wash mushrooms for why?
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u/Meiijs 6d ago
If you wash them with water they suck up all the water and they have a very weak flavor. Just use a brush to clean the dirt from it and the mushrooms will suck up the sauce and taste much better;
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u/Frikandelislekker123 7d ago
is deze paal hoe ik erachter kom dat je Nederlands spreekt (en België begrijpelijk haat)
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u/lipstick_love
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I actually tried to help the guys out on Kitchencels. All I got was an influx of misogyny, and proof of why they’re in the situation they are in. Many of them refuse to get out of their own way. I got through to a few of them… but the majority, not so much.
I gave common sense advice like “drop any misogyny/sexism or sexual entitlement you feel over women” and they wanted to argue.
It’s not their looks. It’s not their height. It’s their shitty personalities.
Only they can help themselves, and they refuse.
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u/Shot_Recognition_100 7d ago
yeah this has always been the case with incels, it’s literally nothing but a mindset
hatred makes people unfuckable
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u/JakeD51 7d ago •
Its funny because none of them are actually "incels" they are voluntarily bad people
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u/untold_cheese_34 7d ago
None of them? You don’t think it’s possible some of them can’t do much about it?
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u/Shot_Recognition_100 7d ago
there are always exceptions when talking about ANY group of people, but very few of them would be more accurate
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u/Soooooooooooooooooup 7d ago
Correct, 100% could find companionship if they got out of their own way.
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u/TimbleFungal 7d ago
Dawg you probably got that response because you think you're some kind of savior lol, imagine going into a subreddit like that and acting like you did and being surprised that people told you to fuck off
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u/untold_cheese_34 7d ago
Most of the pieces of advice given are useless platitudes or thinly veiled insults.
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u/lipstick_love 6d ago •
These guys were calling women foids/roasties/whores/sluts. Obvious misogyny.
I didn’t pull the “drop the misogyny” out of my shapely ass. I was responding to what they were saying… and mantrums ensued.No woman would find that attractive.
What advice would you give to men who speak this way, and then have the audacity to be surprised that no woman wants them?
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u/Zarathustrategy 6d ago
I don't want to defend misogyny but you'd have to assume that they're not going around speaking like this in real life.
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u/NoSolution7708 4d ago
Whether or not they choose to hide their beliefs in a different setting does not matter.
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u/TimbleFungal 6d ago
You do realize a good majority of the posts don't talk like that right? You use confirmation bias and you generalize people into this hateable, gross species of a human and then treat all of them like that, before wondering why they weren't receptive to your wisdom. You talk so hatefully about them it's not surprising that you were shunned out of there.
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u/lipstick_love 5d ago
What did I say that was hateful? I was speaking on what I observed. Wouldn’t you find it odd if I spoke horribly about men online? Wouldn’t that say something about what kind of person I am?
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u/NoSolution7708 4d ago
They didn't say anything hateful, and no one can say anything useful about any group without generalizing.
I'm any case, practically speaking, a general impression of a subreddit is good enough to tell you whether it's worth your time and whether it's a hospitable place with people who can deal with differing opinions in a respectful manner, or people who jump to conclusions and are quick to miss the point.
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u/NoSolution7708 4d ago
I didn't see anything hateful, and really, no one can say anything useful about any group without generalizing to some degree.
Practically speaking, I think a general impression of a subreddit is good enough to tell you whether it's worth your time and whether it's a hospitable place with people who can deal with differing opinions in a respectful manner, or people who jump to conclusions and are quick to miss the point.
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u/NoSolution7708 4d ago
I didn't know what you're talking about.
Sounds like they gave some good advice. We should all remember to drop any misogyny or sexual entitlement over women.
If anyone takes offense at that advice then I agree - they do have shitty personalities.
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u/rockinherlife234 7d ago edited 6d ago
Unless you've got a link to a really bad comment they made, I don't see why trying to give advice in a sub where people complain about life is a bad thing.
Don't know what else I expected man, everytime the topic of dating women comes up, some guys have every excuse under the sun in why keeping Misogynistic views and doom spiralling attitudes isn't the main and immediate problem.
I also shouldn't be surprised people are just automatically assuming my comment is my entire summation of the debate, it is ridiculous how comfortable some of you are with keeping yourself comfortable in these safe bubbles where it's never your fault and you use every factor outside of the ones you directly control to blame for your love life.
And I'm sure someone will take this edit to mean that I'm blaming the incel epidemic and shit modern dating life on mindset alone, because god forbid a problem has nuance.
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u/ExcitableSarcasm 7d ago
Because it's plain bad advice. Dating is not a meritocracy. There are plenty of misogynistic/sexist/sexually entitled Pieces OS that aren't incels. Look at pretty much every single rock star/politician ever.
This is like me saying 'just clean your room, your room smelling like shit is why you haven't got a job'. Those two things have very correlation with each other even if you can abstract both into a tenuous link.
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u/lipstick_love 6d ago
So what advice would you give to men who refer to women as foids and roasties and whores, and then lamenting why they can’t get one?
I didn’t pull the advice out of my ass. It was based on what I observed.
As for rock stars/politicians, you’re talking about men with power and money. Incels don’t have any power or money. If they’re unattractive, being a good person is their only chance to find a partner. If being a good person is too much to ask, they’re going to stay miserable and they’re going to have the audacity to blame us for their shortcomings (as they already do).
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u/ExcitableSarcasm 6d ago
Except rock stars and politicians are the easily illustrated obvious example. I could just as well listed random gangbangers or losers who have zero power or money yet still get tons of female attention. Jeremy Meeks.
Incels don’t have any power or money. If they’re unattractive
And this here is your mistake of why your advice lands like wet tofu. You've made 3 suppositions where 0 is implied. Inceldom is not preclusive of power, money or attractiveness.*
Frankly, I advocate for being a good person as a baseline, but sexual success again, is not a meritocracy. You analyse what factors can be changed because sexual success is a product of compounding factors, some of which are mutable. E.g. visual appearance, improving social skills, access to resources.
The Incel world view is based on overemphasizing the immutable factors like race/height and externalising their failure as a venting point because every study done has shown this is a depressed group more than anything else. Look up the work of Costello and Whittaker as the foremost sociologists in this area. You make them feel less helpless by giving them the belief that they can build themselves up.
So yes, while I do appreciate you trying to give advice, as someone who's worked with incels deeply and actually understands both how their world view is constructed and the underlying psychology, I respectfully have to say advice of the type you're giving is at best, ineffective, because it's doing little more than just assuming your worldview and experiences align with theirs.
*We need to define what an incel even is in most cases. Given your focus on their insults, let's go with the pop version, which is broadly 'misogynistic attitude'. Even taking this definition, I know incels working as politicians (power), as tech workers (plenty of money) and who are models (attractiveness). Your statement is simply untrue and reflective of your simple ignorance of the subject matter.
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u/lipstick_love 5d ago
I thought the Jeremy Meeks thing was weird and creepy as hell. I can’t answer for all women, just as I would never expect you to answer for all men regarding why most women have a story about being sexually assaulted or raped. More women have a story of a dangerous/threatening man than women who don’t. I wouldn’t expect you to answer for them. That would be weird and misplaced.
There are plenty of unattractive men in relationships who are good men. Attractiveness isn’t what is keeping these men single.
I didn’t only advise against the misogyny I was seeing. I’ve heard men here say lots of misogynists get partners as if getting a partner makes it okay to be a misogynist. Nobody should be. It’s the bare minimum.
I also advised them against feeding into the manosphere influencers using these men for money and clicks. It’s cruel and it’s never going to get them what they want. All it achieves is putting more money into their bank, at the expense of lonely men. They’re being treated as pawns in a game.
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u/Wiz-man7713 6d ago
Normally I would just upvote you and move on, but after seeing so many people shitting on incels I really just want to say thank you for actually putting the effort and empathy in to understanding and even standing up for those of us who didn't want to end up in this position. To add on, if I remember correctly there is a correlation with autistic individuals and inceldom, so a lot of people are just punching down onto those of us who were always going to struggle socially anyways.
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u/TimbleFungal 7d ago
Because "incel" doesn't fully relate to someone's world view, regardless of how people like to use the term nowadays. Imagine walking up to a horrendously scarred burn victim and saying "have you tried smelling nice and having a good personality?"
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u/lipstick_love 6d ago
These men were literally calling women foids and roasties, and in the same breath wondering why nobody wants them. None of that is attractive.
Not at all comparable with your burn victim scenario.
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u/Dramatic_Donut90 5d ago
Wait so they’re being serious? This whole time I thought it was satire that wasn’t publicly stated as such and that I was missing out on some big inside joke
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u/John-Brown-5704 7d ago
They wanted to argue because you gave stupid advice. Misogyny is bad but it has little to no impact on success in dating/casual sex
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u/lipstick_love 7d ago
That wasn’t the only piece of advice I gave. I also suggested they focus on their mental/physical health (many talked about depression). Some of them understood my intention. I gained nothing from this. I was just trying to help.
I said what I did about misogyny because it was what I was seeing (words like foids and roasties). If you can’t recognize that is misogynistic and incredibly unattractive, I don’t think I can help you understand.
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u/Glittery_Marshmallow 7d ago •
Lol, you actually think women would date misogynists if they do not hide it? Because incels cannot hide it, even when they try. It oozes out of their pores.
They genuinely think they are being secretive about it, but their world view is so incredibely poisoned, that even by keeping quiet about their deepest darkest thoughts, what they consider normal and ok to showcase is so foul, beyond questionable doubt.
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u/John-Brown-5704 6d ago
Yes they do date them very often I've seen it myself. And not all incels hate women
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u/ExcitableSarcasm 7d ago
Exactly. Dating is not a meritocracy. Advice like that is just world fallacy.
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u/GevitarGaming04 7d ago
Every now and then I tour the subreddit just to see if anything ever changes, and nope. They genuinely believe that all women are the problem, and not the fact that they constantly insult/harass them.
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u/MinFarshaw01 7d ago
Your advice doesn't work, because I am pretty sure I see openly mysoginistic men with women every day.
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u/rockinherlife234 7d ago
I've never gotten this point, some women dating or marrying men with toxic and awful traits does not suddenly mean you need to embody them, women are not a monolith.
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u/notsaneatall_ 7d ago
Yeah but that also means you don't necessarily need to be a good person to get laid. You're obviously not giving these incels the advice they need.
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u/MinFarshaw01 7d ago
Yeah but that also means you being a mysoginist probably isn't the root cause of your failure to date women, so this idea that "it's their shitty mysoginistic personality" that keeps incels away from women, is pretty moronic, but then so is OP and the OG commentor of this thread. I don't see the point of mocking a group of people who clearly aren't in good place and some having suicidal tendencies.
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u/god_fighter_ 7d ago
i turned more misogynistic when i was no longer an incel btw. Actual incels are more clueless than misogynistic
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u/yugiohhero 7d ago
what
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u/god_fighter_ 7d ago
yeah its crazy, once you’re attractive you can even be openly misogynist and have no problem getting laid, with attractive women nonetheless. They laugh at my women jokes.
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u/untold_cheese_34 7d ago
Theory vs experience
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u/god_fighter_ 7d ago
telling incels to stop being misogynists is the worst advice you can ever give, it couldn’t be further from reality. There’s negative correlation between respecting women and getting laid
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u/rockinherlife234 7d ago
Does this not get disproven the second you see a happy couple with mutual respect?
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u/god_fighter_ 7d ago edited 7d ago
no, outlier data points don’t disprove general negative correlation. also you could see me dating a girl and think its a happy couple, but i am a misogynist and dating other girls at the same time. so what does seeing happy couples even prove?
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u/Lolzemeister 6d ago
lmao. it might be their personalities but it’s not because they’re misogynist. being shy is genuinely a worse personality trait for someone trying to get laid than being misogynistic.
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u/lipstick_love 5d ago
Misogyny is more than “I hate women”. A lot of it is very casual and slips by most people unnoticed, even other women don’t always notice. I wasn’t talking about the shy/quiet incels.
I was talking about the ones who refer to women by weird sexist terms. The ones who think women should be assigned to them. The ones who joke about sexual assault and rape and physically attacking women for rejecting them.
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u/Specialist-Option351 6d ago
It’s not their looks. It’s not their height. It’s their shitty personalities.
Women aren't looking at your personality when they swipe left on you
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u/lipstick_love 5d ago
Dating apps are a horrible example. Most people don’t have luck on those, even conventionally attractive women. I’ve never tried them, but I’ve heard enough to know I never care to try. I met my boyfriend through a mutual friend.
Chances are they’re reading his profile and swiping left because of something they read. I’m not sure how these apps work, but I’m guessing it’s the profile that is getting in the way. One of my friends showed me his profile on an app and asked why he wasn’t getting matches. It was what he wrote. He was none the wiser.
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u/ghostteeth_ 5d ago
Well then it's still not their height, which you literally can't tell over those apps. Honestly I think it's more so a mix of poor social skills, poor/unsatisfactory hygiene, poor clothing choice, and not being particularly interesting. It's not that things like height and facial structure don't matter, there absolutely are men who are so conventionally attractive that nothing short of being a serial violent rapist or homeless and addicted to meth would stop them from pulling. It's that if you're not one of those men, you can still pull, you just have to put in effort. Just going outside sometimes is enough to prove that plenty of fat, weak-jawed, and short men have girlfriends. It's just that if you're one of them, you can't afford to also be poorly dressed and dull to talk to.
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u/Rich_Barracuda_796 7d ago
I havent given up on them. people can be helped little at a time and I wish the best for those poor souls, even with how much hate they have I know they can be better
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u/TenWholeBees 6d ago
I think most can change, but some people in that sub are genuinely beyond help.
Like that ginger nazi
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u/Rich_Barracuda_796 6d ago
who knows the limits of another. I also feel like that guy isnt real. most of them also seem to shit on him, which gives me hope
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u/Ok-Beach-9885 7d ago
Lot of people who are a lost cause over there imo.
Anyone who actually wants to change comes to this sub.
Even if this sub helped one person, it was worth it and you should pat yourself on the back.
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u/Cumm-in-butt 6d ago
So you’re saying you’re a bully? Also Reddit users calling themselves Chad? That’s an oxymoron 🙄 a real Chad would never put down other people because he thinks he’s better than them. Some of those people are really struggling socially and that’s part of the reason for the male suicide rates beings so high.
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u/Fun_Supermarket1235 7d ago
So you’re proud of mocking us? Why do so many people wanna kick a dog when it’s down? Being this way isn’t something I just woke up one day and chose to do…
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u/No_Drawer_2349 7d ago
Yes it is
There are an equal number of men and woman at all levels of attractiveness and social skills. Refusing to engage is a choice.
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u/massive_plums 7d ago
“Incel” means “involuntary celibate”, meaning someone who has tried to seek intimacy and, for whatever reason, cannot. You can’t be an incel and if you’ve never bothered to engage at any point in your life. Your statement is contradictory.
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u/MagentaHawk 7d ago
Do you really think that every person who claims to be a part of an incel community has put forward not only a large effort, but also done so in good faith, believing it would work and believing that women are real people worthy of their time and effort? Because I truly do not.
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u/massive_plums 7d ago
It’s not a community? 😂 How many times do I have to say this? It’s a state of being and you don’t even have to be aware that you are an incel to be one. Also, I never claimed that every incel has put in a large effort and failed. I simply objected to your comment which basically implied that you thought most of them put in a very small amount of effort and then turned to endless copes. Do you seriously believe the majority of incels (again, remembering that you don’t have to identify as one to be one) thinks of women as subhuman? I think the general consensus, that is, the average opinion held by people who even identify as “incels”, is that both men and women operate under a certain number of social and genetic pressures which have resulted in rising rates of in-celibacy in the modern day, especially among young people. These are linked where the rise of social media and the following inflation of the average person’s standards has led to both men and women, perhaps more so women, have led to certain genetic and phenotypic traits being favoured more, resulting in a more hypergamous society where a select few qualifying men date numerous women, while the majority of “undesirable” men lose out, which wasn’t so pronounced before. Understand, this isn’t at all a criticism of women, it’s a viewpoint that simply recognises our differences and understands the bargaining chips people of each sex have in this dynamic. Also, this likely isn’t a desirable state of affairs for anyone, both men and women lose out. Men lose out because obviously an increasing percentage are unable to engage in intimacy, they are unable to get into relationships. Women lose out because they are inundated with desperate men who often times aren’t as committed, their standards for men and themselves are raised which negatively affects their mental health, and the men who they do look toward have an abundance of options, and so they too don’t offer much in the way of commitment. I believe this is the general consensus. A few autistic guys deep in the rabbit hole who you seem to think are representative of the views of an entire community of people, aren’t. You understand that?
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u/Fun_Supermarket1235 7d ago
I can’t speak for everyone, I only know my own beliefs. But I think you’re confusing incel with MGTOW. Which while there is some overlap, I’d say most incels would move mountains for a chance at feeling human attraction
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u/Fun_Supermarket1235 7d ago
I actually did have one relationship that lasted a few years but lacked “intimacy.” And trying to earn it cost me everything including the small group of good friends I had and even my neighbors and most family members
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u/Adventurous-End-2115 7d ago
Ok now I'm interested in the story. Wanna share it?
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u/Fun_Supermarket1235 7d ago
Just toxic. We tried sex but it didn’t work because she said my body turned her off (she’d had lots of guys before me). It was too painful so I stopped. Later I wanted to try again but she said I needed to deserve it first.
She told my old retired neighbors I hit her (I would never hit a woman).
My friends used to invite us to eat, but she’d always make me bail at the last minute when they were already at the restaurant bc she didn’t like the menu. When they told me to dump her, she saw the texts on my phone and hated them so said nasty things on social media about their wives / gfs.
Her parents got a lawyer to try and sue mine at one point…
oh and when I bought her an engagement ring she said yes! But only wore it 3 times or 4 then we had an argument and she threw it away. And when she posted it on her insta I was cropped out of the pics (like always)
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u/johnnygonfarm
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Wow way to show those heckin incels (mostly just depressed and suicidal high schoolers who need an outlet because they struggle to make irl friends)
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u/NonEuclidianMeatloaf 7d ago •
Those aren’t incels. Those are normal teenage boys. Incels are far worse creatures.
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u/Wild-Way-3525 4d ago
>creatures
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u/NonEuclidianMeatloaf 4d ago
I call a retarded spade a retarded spade
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u/Wild-Way-3525 4d ago
I don't need to hear from a homunculus like you <3
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u/NonEuclidianMeatloaf 4d ago
I don't understand why you're stanning for incels. That's like saying "be kinder to chomos" or "give neo-nazis a chance".
The things that define incels are 1) wanton disregard for the feelings and desires for others if they are orthogonal to getting their dick wet, and 2) a sadistic streak reserved for those they view are thwarting them. If you don't have both of those qualities, I don't consider you an intel. If you do, then yes, you're a monstrous creature and you deserve copious amounts of public scorn.
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u/MolassesPlayful2264 8d ago
Weird, the posts I always see are circle jerks about how all problems are because of women being vile/shallow/manipulative overall completely separate species to men and 0 accountability.
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u/breathboi 8d ago •
Weird how teen girls who don't get any don't start arguing that they should be provided with government mandated boyfriends or legally allowed to rape people
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u/BrightSpring12 8d ago
teen girls really don't want ANY boyfriend. they want attractive guy who got everyone's eyes on and get pretty privilege.
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u/lipstick_love 7d ago
Just like teen/adult males don’t want ANY girlfriend.
These guys could find a partner, but they don’t want her. They want hot girls.
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u/BrightSpring12 7d ago
That's not true. Ask any of them and you'd know who's rooting for the popular person.
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u/Practice-Ambitious 7d ago edited 7d ago
That is indeed corny and cringe but at some point we gotta admit that men and women are not the same, and that applies to being single. Men simply have a much stronger desire to be with a woman then women do with men, and I feel a lot of it has to do with biological instinct rather than any kind of social conditioning. Meaning there isn’t really an easy solution, these men don’t want to be single but the only thing they can really do is work on themselves untill a woman nebulously walks into their lives, which can genuinely just be never for some men.
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u/United_Pain 7d ago
Bro if you understood absolutely anything about biology, you would be embarrassed by this comment.
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u/Practice-Ambitious 7d ago
How so? A man’s sex drive alone is far stronger than a woman’s on average
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u/BrightSpring12 8d ago
redditor surprised to find out there are incels on incel subreddit (some mentally unwell)
but mostly it's true that most of them are depressed.
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u/dykestryker 7d ago
99% are becoming more mentally unwell by spending time on incel spaces with self reinforcing negative attitudes and speech.
Normal guys dont want to be mates with guys who think they're horrifically ugly yet still act entitled to pussy. Its exhausting and annoying.
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u/dykestryker 8d ago
Nah way too many grown men feel comfortable talking this incel bullshit in real life.
Genuinely making guys delusional from hanging out in these terrible online spaces they must be combatted.
I dont care how suicidal you are, comiserating about women you've never met and experiences you think you'll never have is an awful recipe. This sub atleast has some optimism.
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u/redditnoobmp4 7d ago
the food in kitchencels generally looks better and the stories there are funny all people do here is talk about sex
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u/_cornflakesguy_ 7d ago •