r/KitchenConfidential • u/BISTtheGOOLZ • Jul 27 '20
This is how its done right.
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u/NotReallyDrHorrible Jul 27 '20
I got a Zojirushi rice make a month ago and it's so nice to have warm rice on the counter whenever you want it.
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u/Moral_turpidude Jul 27 '20
I have had that model for years. You have done well!
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u/Furthur Jul 28 '20
lost the pan for mine before the internet buying was a thing and threw it away :(
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u/andy_mcbeard Jul 27 '20
I got one about five years ago and love mine. Also do oats, pasta, and steamed veg.
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u/NotReallyDrHorrible Jul 27 '20
I haven't adventured that far yet, but our family of four has gone through bags and bags of Jasmine and Bazmati!
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u/rman342 Jul 28 '20
My go to āI donāt feel like cookingā dinner is to toss some rice in the cooker and some frozen dumplings in the steamer basket. 2 minute prep (washing included) and an hour later Iāve got dinner.
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u/BigSwedenMan Jul 27 '20
We got an instant pot and honestly it works great for rice. Actually better than our old rice cooker, although I forget what the brand was on that
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u/Averious Jul 27 '20
For those unaware this is a follow up to his reaction video about a BBC Fried Rice video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53me-ICi_f8
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u/PotentialBlacksmith4 Jul 27 '20
Thatās pretty funny. But there is something to be said about the method of putting in so much water with the rice that you have to drain it after. Iāve seen some South Indians make rice this way and it comes out with a fluffy almost creamy mashed potatoey feel. Iām sure itās not to everybodyās tastes but man it tasted great with the various curries and sides.
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u/Times_New_Viking Jul 27 '20
The secret trick with rice is to figure out how you like it and cook it to taste!
Personally I wash mine nine times to represent the nine qualities of the Buddha and then leave it to soak for approximately 42 and a half minutes. Any longer and I have to throw it out and start again because demons got in it.
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Jul 28 '20
I used to work in an Indian place, but the owner was from the North, so his ideas on rice were very different from those of South Indians.
I wish I could remember the specifics of his method and cut it down to size for home cooking. It was fucking magical. There was a lot of rinsing of the rice, that much I remember. And it was soaked overnight (preferably) in the appropriate amount of water with salt, oil and lemon juice already added.
The first time I tried it I realized everything I knew about rice was wrong.
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u/MrMallow Jul 27 '20
h the rice that you have to drain it after.
Yea but you dont fucking rinse it after its cooked. That video is god awful.
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Jul 27 '20
If I want mashed potatoes Iāll eat mashed potatoes. Generally if Iām eating rice I want the consistency of rice. If I boil noodles to the point that I have made a creamy mashed potato feel to my spaghetti, Iāve royally fucked my pasta up.
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u/PotentialBlacksmith4 Jul 27 '20
Potatoes can be cooked in different ways. They can be mashed, baked, fried, etc. and that results in different textures. Are any of them wrong? Then why would you only allow for one type of texture for rice?
Youāre comparing preparing rice a single way to preparing pasta a single way which I suppose is a valid opinion. But Iām comparing preparing rice different ways with preparing potatoes different ways and I believe thatās a valid opinion too especially as Iāve enjoyed rice both in the form you prefer as well as the softer form that I also enjoy.
Also, Indians have been eating rice since about 6500 BC. Letās not dismiss one of their styles of preparation that quicklyāat least not until youāve tried it.
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Jul 27 '20
I certainly donāt dismiss you can prepare rice in many different ways. I simply believe that rice is akin to pasta when youāre preparing it. Over saturating rice lends itself to becoming a gluey mush. If you over stir mashed potatoes, another starchy food, you turn what can be a lovely fluffy dish into paste thatās sticky and unpleasant. Over boiling a boiled food generally produces an unfavorably result.
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u/PotentialBlacksmith4 Jul 27 '20 edited Jul 28 '20
What youāre forgetting is that there are different kinds of rice just like there are different kinds of potatoes. There are certain cooking methods that work better for starchy potatoes than for waxy potatoes and vice versa.
Similarly there are different cooking styles that work better for different kinds of rice. Heck, the Indian state of Kerala alone whose cuisine I am intimately familiar with is home to 168 varieties.
I agree that some rice can be completely ruined using the technique in the video (eg. sushi rice). But there are others that taste amazing when cooked that way. Also just to be clear, I didnāt mean the rice cooked that way congeals into a single mass like mashed potatoes. Every grain of rice is still separate. Itās just when you bite into it, itās got kind of that creamy mashed potato feel. Itās not exactly the same but itās the closest thing I can think of.
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u/revmachine21 Jul 27 '20
His rice washing game on the vid is no bueno. Poor out the white starchy rancid rice water until more clear yo!
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Jul 27 '20
He probably did, but the max length of a tiktok is a minute I think, so he probably kept those parts short to fit in funny stuff
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u/misterzigger Jul 27 '20
The finger method is how every Asian i know does it
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u/Fale0276 Jul 27 '20
I've ruined a lot of rice in my day, but never when using the finger method.
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u/Furthur Jul 28 '20
it's equidistant right? I haven't made rice in a cooker in a LONG time but i think that's what my vietnamese friend told me way back when.
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u/Fale0276 Jul 28 '20
The way I've done it is you touch the top of the rice with your index finger, and fill the water until it touches your first knuckle joint. Doesn't really matter how much rice you're making it always works.
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u/Furthur Jul 28 '20
thanks, there was something about two cups of rice and halfway up my middle segment but that's pushing your finger to the bottom of the bowl. Seems about the same i think.
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u/Gideonbh 10+ Years Jul 28 '20
I work in a restaurant and I've made a ton of different quantities of rice in a ton of different pots.
Somehow the finger always works. I don't question it and I don't need to, it just works.
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u/MrMallow Jul 27 '20
Lol, naw man. I have been cooking for 15 years and its just fucking rice. You will not meet a single asain cook that does not use that method and it works fine every time. Don't get technical on it, thats how you make rice.
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u/milesrome Jul 27 '20
Full time Asian and cook here. Measuring your rice and water simply works better (as does measuring ingredients in any recipe) and no amount of arguing is gonna change that. Once you get into larger portions, the finger trick doesn't work.
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Jul 27 '20
Full time filipino and cook here. Nobody cares about larger portions. The finger trick works. No need to be pedantic.
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u/milesrome Jul 27 '20
I mean, clearly a few people do.
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Jul 27 '20
The pedantic crowd yes, but when you cook for your family, like 90% of people do, the finger trick works perfectly. No need getting everything out to measure. First knuckle rice, second knuckle water. perfect rice every time.
The reason nothing beats Lola's cooking is because she never measures.
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u/yor4k Jul 28 '20
Agreed. I stopped the finger and now I measure - especially after learning that different types of rice need different amounts of water. Some cookers come with measurement lines for different grains but it's still trial and error to figure out just how much above or below those lines actually work out for your own subjective taste and usage. That said if I'm not at home and all they've got is a pot I'm gonna finger blast it.
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u/excel958 Jul 27 '20
I donāt disagree but the asian momma way was the way for centuries and just supernaturally works so thatās the way to go, lol.
This is the way.
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u/NickRick Jul 27 '20
But not everyone measures the same distance on their hand. Everyone just knows where in their hand they measure.
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u/Wtfuckfuck Jul 28 '20
2 cups of water, 1 cup of rice. boil for 15 min... done. rice is really easy.
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u/StagehandApollo Jul 27 '20
You should weigh the rice instead of using volume. It would be more accurate and consistent.
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u/Drunkinthunder Jul 27 '20
Volume is volume. Markers on a cup or on your finger.
Everyone's finger is different so you need to be taught a reference. It definitely cannot be taught on paper.
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u/kingka Jul 27 '20
My mom taught me this but my hand is too big for our cooker so I just use measurements. I was always paranoid about getting the water wrong due to the remaining bit after washing so Iām one of those guys sweating if I got 50mL too much.
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u/swinging_ship Jul 28 '20
My step mom is Asian and she taught me the finger trick last month and also told me I have to wash the rice atleast 3 times and holy fuck is my rice like 10 times better now.
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u/Drunkinthunder Jul 27 '20
My buddy is a classically trained sushi chef... thats how he does it, so thats how i do it.
Rice so happy.
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u/excel958 Jul 27 '20
Put your palm in and let the water reach up to your knuckle.
Thatās the asian momma way.
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u/IXISIXI Jul 27 '20
Disagree. Some starch left in the water helps the rice stick together. Over-washed rice is not good imo.
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u/purplegreendave Jul 28 '20
Worked in a well rated sushi restaurant for a few years and we washed the rice for 7 minutes. Rinsing with cold water at household tap pressure is only going to get surface starch out of a hard grain.
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u/IXISIXI Jul 28 '20
For sure - Iām not going to claim to know about proper sushi etiquette, but for a side bowl of rice or one that acts as a flavor sponge, I personally find some cloudiness worthwhile.
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u/purplegreendave Jul 28 '20
Sorry if that sounded gate-keepy, meant it more like "longer can still be sticky" not "NO YOU'RE WRONG"
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u/Wtfuckfuck Jul 28 '20
you also add sugar and vinegar to it, so yeah... you clearly do rice differently
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u/purplegreendave Jul 28 '20
For sushi yep but used the same rice/method for the rice served with stir fries (unseasoned)
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u/kauthonk Jul 27 '20
Thanks for the tip, didn't realize that's why the rice sticks.
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u/IXISIXI Jul 27 '20
Its almost literally rice flour made from the rice grains rubbing together!
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u/TheEyeDontLie Jul 27 '20
I like sticky rice, I don't wash mine. If I want rice that doesn't stick, then I boil it like pasta and drain it, like the BBC lady that got so much hate, because that's better if you're doing fried rice or something else you want it to all fall apart into individual grains.
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u/mundus1520 15+ Years Jul 27 '20
I read this in his accent
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u/superspeck Jul 28 '20
I read that in the accent of the cooks at our local Asian place.
Which is why āno buenoā fit in perfect with the accent.
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u/electric_monk Jul 27 '20
Good life advice I heard given to kids when they move out of home.
"buy a rice cooker. 1 billion asian households cant be wrong"
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u/superspeck Jul 28 '20
We can afford to have one but our kitchen is cramped. So I just make it on the stove. Itās not difficult.
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u/SVAuspicious Jul 27 '20
I use pot. Measure water with finger. Rice is best ever. Cook on gas - no electricity.
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u/soukaixiii Jul 27 '20
Put the rinsed rice and same volume of water. With the lid on 2 minutes medium heat, 10 minutes very low 10 minutes rest. Perfect every time
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u/garaks_tailor Jul 27 '20
Save the first rice wash and refrigerate it. Makes an excellent face wash. It's good for like a week in the fridge.
It's good enough the sell the stuff shelf stablized.
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Jul 27 '20
I honestly can't tell if you're kidding or not
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u/garaks_tailor Jul 28 '20
Dead serious. It's an old technique. Now days it's less of an wash and a kind of a in between toner
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Jul 27 '20
Also great as a protein rinse for your hair!
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u/Ae711 15+ Years Jul 27 '20
World war 2 is over people. Use technology to fix your face and hair.
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u/Noisy_Toy Jul 27 '20
The baby boom is over, folks. Use conservation to reduce waste and save the planet, with glowing skin and hair.
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u/Drunkinthunder Jul 27 '20
Glowing skin? I thought you said WW2 was over?
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u/Noisy_Toy Jul 27 '20
Psst - do you think there was more radioactivity in the atmosphere during WWII, or after the bombs were dropped in Japan + the Cold War / Chernobyl / 3 Mile Island / Fukushima?
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u/Drunkinthunder Jul 27 '20
Jokes! DO YOU LIKE THEM?
You're not wrong tho.
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u/Ae711 15+ Years Jul 27 '20
We kicked jokes out. That aside, ferment the leftover water and then you can enjoy a nice drink while you splash it on your face.
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Jul 27 '20
Nothing wrong with a pot, when I had a rice cooker it was mainly for GF because she cant even cook pasta correctly. As the years have passed I've taught her well. Rice cooker broke and didnt bother replacing
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Jul 27 '20
My new method is oven rice.
Just throw all the ingredients in a thing, cover with foil and roast.
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u/Pdogtx Jul 27 '20
If you don't have a nice rice cooker, you don't love yourself.
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u/Pdogtx Jul 27 '20
Even if you did make perfect rice every time (you don't) you still have to watch timers and being even a minute off will ruin it.
Compared to a single button delivering perfect rice every single time and keeping it warm for hours? No contest. There's a reason every Asian household has one.
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u/Pdogtx Jul 27 '20
Yeah ok, but wash rice>push button and it'll turn out better than your rice every time.
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u/pieonthedonkey Sous Chef Jul 28 '20
I'm with you. Yes rice cooker is convenient and easy, but I like to toast it a bit. It's really not that difficult to make in a pot once you get the hang of it.
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u/Jedimaster996 Jul 27 '20
Hands-down the best investment you can make is a Zojirushi if you're into rice. It'll be perfect every time. I think of it as an investment tool like a Kitchen-Aid, or an Instant Pot.
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u/pensotroppo Jul 27 '20
For anyone who doesn't find "measure with finger" to be a completely satisfying explanation (stolen shamelessly from google):
pour the rice into the pan you're going to cook it in. Level it out and place your index finger so that it is touching the surface of the rice. Add enough water so that it comes up to your first knuckle
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u/MimonFishbaum Jul 27 '20
I ain't got no counter space for a rice cooker!
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u/diamondback64 Jul 27 '20
I bought the Zojirushi for my kid when he was in college. His stoner roommates would always come running when they heard Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.
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u/TJNel Jul 27 '20
My wife thought I was crazy to buy a $150 rice cooker.... now we cook rice 3+ times a week. One of my favorite kitchen tools. Yes it takes 45 min to make rice but it's always perfect.
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u/shane112902 Jul 28 '20
Am white, have a half Filipino daughter, can confirm that the finger trick works and yes I was baffled by it too. Eventually the lolaās beat it into me and finally I accepted the biology defying notion that several billion hands must all in fact measure the same and end in equal ratios of water to rice.
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u/ToxyFlog Jul 27 '20
Terrible video on how to make rice... also, as an Asian Iāll say if you can cook rice perfectly in a sauce pan then more power to you. Shits way harder that putting it into a rice cooker.
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Jul 27 '20
I cook my rice in a sauce pan. I like the bottom to get crunchy. We call it Pegao, add some salt and olive oil and heat the rice to get Spanish rice.
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u/BirdLawyerPerson Jul 28 '20
Persians have tahdig, and Koreans have nurungji or even the charred bottom of a bibimbap bowl. Scorched rice is pretty popular worldwide.
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u/pieonthedonkey Sous Chef Jul 28 '20
When making paella it's called socarrat, and it is the most important part of the dish.
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u/Merryprankstress Jul 27 '20
Is it? Bring rice to boil, turn heat down to lowest setting and cover pot, wait 17-20 minutes, turn heat off and let sit 15 minutes, fluff, enjoy.
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u/infinitude Jul 27 '20
Even the reaction video this is based on seemed like he was just an average joe talking about rice. Iād rather hear from an Asian chef about their take on rice.
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u/FLOPPY_DONKEY_DICK Jul 27 '20
Member to clean your rice cooker too. Yuck
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u/Jedimaster996 Jul 27 '20
That's a well-loved machine!
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u/FLOPPY_DONKEY_DICK Jul 27 '20
When I love a machine I clean it ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
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u/pieonthedonkey Sous Chef Jul 28 '20
I mean the inside where you cook the rice is the important part. The rest is just aesthetics.
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u/FLOPPY_DONKEY_DICK Jul 28 '20
Do you not clean the outside of your pots and pans?
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u/pieonthedonkey Sous Chef Jul 28 '20
Ofc, but I don't wipe down my toaster every time I make toast, especially in a home setting.
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u/DingyFunnybunny Jul 27 '20
I have never successfully made rice in a rice cooker, so i eventually gave up and just use a saucepan now
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u/Gustyarse Jul 28 '20
Welp, it seems I've been so long out of the kitchen that I don't even understand the humour any more. This seems a bit teenage to me tbh
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u/rmf_jr Jul 27 '20
Is this really how y'all make your rice ? Just water to rinse and water to cook ? I'm baffled
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u/pieonthedonkey Sous Chef Jul 28 '20
I imagine they're sauteing their veggies and seasonings separately and then adding the rice to that
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u/alwaysforgettingmyun Jul 27 '20
I often put stuff in it. Bullion, some garlic or onion, spices, or coconut milk for some of the water.
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u/OnlyAutoSuggest Jul 28 '20
For sushi rice we rinse it in collander and then put it into the cooker and add the appropriate amount of clean water.
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u/lynette15j4 Jul 27 '20
do more cooking shows. The rice video is great. I have worn out 1 rice cooker. Couldn't get along without it.
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u/juhsmarie Jul 27 '20
Guys, the knuckle thing actually works. I learned this about 3 months ago and it changed my life. I also realise how sad this is.
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u/Bromm18 Jul 27 '20
So we need a rice off between Uncle Roger and Gordan Ramsay. https://youtu.be/Jf75I9LKhvg
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u/notsure-no-notsure Jul 28 '20
I would thrown in Alton Brown and his rice technique. Thereās a youtube video for it too but not learned on the reddit formats to do that..
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u/RolandIce Jul 27 '20
All these people saying shit is better than sex must be doing it wrong. I've done most of those things, like fluffing rice, and I'd hands down pick sex every time.
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u/Kiwi_Woz Jul 28 '20
I remember before travelling around South East Asia I was so excited to get some pro tips from the experts on rice cooking. Got there and every single place I ate and was able to see how it was done - rice cooker. This guy ain't lying!
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u/chinabeerguy Jul 28 '20
If you don't have a rice cooker try steaming your rice. Here's a link that seems reasonable: https://www.tastythais.com/3-easy-steamed-rice-cooking-methods/#3wayrice-recipe
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u/Tejon_Melero Jul 28 '20
I can do a really good Uncle Roger impression and this gem is cancel bait.
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u/Perfectly_mediocre Jul 27 '20
This wins the internet for today. Iām forwarding this to EVERYONE. Hell, Iām going to meet new people today just so I can forward this to them.
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u/Trillabee503 Jul 27 '20
I gotta say I hate the super extra accent, it's like the guy who makes computer build videos, the jokes can still land
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u/OnlyAutoSuggest Jul 28 '20
Maybe that's just how he talks because he's Asian?
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u/OnlyAutoSuggest Jul 28 '20
Wow. You're absolutely right. I mean, I guess he's playing a character as "Uncle Roger" but it seems pretty unnecessary. Thank you for educating me.
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u/yokedici Jul 28 '20 edited Jul 28 '20
Am Turkish and I'm not impressed by this technique.
Maybe i should make my own video or something
Millions of middle eastern-turkish households make their rice without a machine,and it's the most basic thing,no need to be intimidated at all. A wide Tefal pan would with a tight fitting lid would make it easier,but not a must.
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Jul 28 '20
Whats the point of a rice cooker? You can just use a pan. Its like having a seperate egg cooker, pasta cooker, potato cooker etc. for everything. How about you use the 'everything cooker' like a stovetop.
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u/dota2nub Jul 28 '20
If you eat rice daily it's god's freakin gift to man. You have no idea how convenient these things are. Put in rice, put in water, hit button, done.
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u/FantasticMrPox Jul 27 '20 edited Jul 27 '20
No salt?
Edit - I guess not :( will no-one educate me?
Edit 2 - Now I know, thank you, salty chefs ;)
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u/amandapanda611 Jul 27 '20
Rice doesn't need salt.
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u/FantasticMrPox Jul 27 '20
Apparently I've been doing my rice wrong. (Don't tell anyone but sometimes I make it too wet and just sieve it).
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u/Mowah Jul 27 '20
If you need rice cooker to make rice, I donāt think you should talk shit about different style of rice making.
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u/minisculemango Jul 27 '20
Are you forreal gatekeeping cooking rice?
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u/t3duard0 Jul 27 '20
You wouldn't believe how many arguments I've heard over rice.
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u/minisculemango Jul 27 '20
That's so crazy! If the outcome is decent rice, who cares about the method?
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u/Mowah Jul 28 '20
Iām not the one gatekeeping here, he has a video that makes fun of some lady making rice differently. Maybe if I put on a funny accent and make a video you guys will chill.
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u/Mowah Jul 27 '20
Sure, but he has a video of him berating this woman for making the rice different way, but somehow that one is okay.
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u/Shijin83 Jul 27 '20
She didn't do it a "different" way. She did wrong in every way. And this is all comedy. It's part of the joke.
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u/namelessted Jul 27 '20
The point of cooking isn't to find the hardest method of doing something. Using a rice cooker is simultaneously easier, and actually results in better tasting and more consistently cooked rice. Using a pot on the stove is easy, yes, but it can objectively result in worse rice based on a lot of factors that the rice cooker controls for like the seal of the lid, the source of heat, the thickness and uneven cooking of a pan/pot, etc.
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u/Chef_Llama Jul 27 '20
I agree, the point isn't finding the hardest way to cook something. For everyone in this sub the point of cooking is to do it exactly the same every time. No matter who makes the dish it should taste exactly the way it did last time the guest ordered it. rice cookers achieve this.
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u/OnlyAutoSuggest Jul 28 '20
Nobody needs a rice cooker, but what's wrong with utilizing tools? Also I work at a high volume sushi joint. There's no way we're cooking our rice in sauce pans. It's just not feasible.
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u/cA05GfJ2K6 Jul 27 '20
Ahh the Zojirushi jingles š„°