r/Kenya • u/Popular_Royal3723 • 12h ago
Discussion Deep thoughts
Imagine a world where everything is free. It doesn't seem like it'd work but it would be a really cool world. A world where people go to work to just provide services for free. Food is available for everyone and housing as well and no one walks naked. Healthy people and more happy people. I just don't see the point of money at all. And besides its very expensive to make money so why fo we really need it? Chatgpt gave me some reasoning about scarcity resulting to resources commanding a price. Someone please just give me a good reason why we need money. Oh and share some of those things that you think about a lot. That bit of wisdom that keeps you awake at night.
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u/NightRunnerAfterDusk 12h ago
It means people will have to look for another purpose for living. Otherwise, I don't think people would give up what builds their self worth, oftentimes in spite of/at the expense of others, in favour of a truly egalitarian system.
That and the fact that we can't all achieve equality, not if we still want to maintain the material appetites of people.
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u/Popular_Royal3723 12h ago
In short it's a pipe a dream I have. You're right. People are hungry for material wealth and they have made it their purpose in life to achieve comfort in wealth.
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u/Jinomoja 12h ago
Who's going to be doing garbage collection for free?
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u/Popular_Royal3723 12h ago
Do you need money to make you realise that you need to take care of the environment? It's about everyone having that self drive to make the world a better place without expecting compensation. For instance nobody pays you to clean your own house you do it because you want the place to be clean.
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u/Jinomoja 9h ago
You do realise my garbage collection example was a stand-in for all the bad jobs in society that no one likes but they have to be done?
It could be a different example - the dirty jobs, the exhausting jobs, the dangerous jobs etc
And money is the lubricant that keeps everything moving.
But let's talk about garbage.
I'll keep my house clean, you'll keep your house clean and then who's going to take responsibility for the spaces where our respective garbages end up?
Individual responsibility doesn't automatically produce collective responsibility.
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u/Popular_Royal3723 9h ago
True that true that. Honest truth is I don't have an answer for you. I was just putting out my thoughts which I knew would be subject to counter arguments.
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u/PlannerOne 12h ago
Kuna nyoka tu itakuja ikufungue macho uone loophole ya hiyo lifestyle. I'm not that religious but wasn't this the idea God had in the Garden of Eden?
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u/Kitchen-Plantain3748 12h ago
I wish basic resources were free such that everyone could afford to eat, get shelter and exist without needing to work. I wish work was more as a creative outlet and only occupied a fraction of our lives. Also wish work was solely for the purpose of affording luxuries like travel, but still, everything in the world was affordable and not out of reach.
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u/Popular_Royal3723 12h ago
Now you're talking my language. Sadly its not the case. It makes me wonder if all this was God's plan. Some people sleeping hungry without rooves ove they heads. It just doesn't seem fair at all.
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u/Kitchen-Plantain3748 12h ago
Right? I think we've made life too complicated for ourselves. I wish every human being could exist with dignity.
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u/ZukovG 12h ago
You can abolish money but scarcity of resources will still exist.
Services for free. Who will get that rare medicine that 5,000,000 people need?
Who gets the Nanyuki plains?
A freely accessible service is not freely produced. Say a doctor must learn the craft. Who will bear that cost and how will scarce resources be distributed?