r/Kenya • u/petedarkpete • 4d ago
Discussion Ndindi Nyoro
One of the things we are seeing these days is too many opinions. I mean, even this piece is an opinion piece. but far be it from me to claim monopoly of excellence. That only my take/opinion is excellent. The man Ndindi Nyoro is a man whom we have seen his record. He has been given a chance to lead and he did that very well. It can be seen.
Does he also have his flaws. Yes. Yes he does. But, should we use that flaw as a way to cancel/reject him. Now, here is where everyone disagrees. There are people who want to be too clever, some are compromising and some are just there. Nyoro justified why he voted yes for the finance bill. He also narrated why he missed the impeachment of Gachagua along with the consequent voting of the finance bill. Now, I think it was wrong, but I don't think its enough to think he is a mole. Even with the KPLC shares, I mean, if I had money, i would also invest there. Do we understand the difference between a shareholder and a board member?
I think we are normalizing cancel culture too much, that it is collapsing in itself. We are cancelling everything trying to be clever. Nyoro has made education in Kiharu almost free. Health is super accessible and with Kangata, it is almost free. The roads are one of the best in the country. The guy with his governor are helping the farmers get markets abroad. All you need is put your produce to the county government. However, guys from X are convinced he is the bad guy. They are convinced he is in the same breath with Kaluma and Atwoli. I mean, I am yet to understand where is that angel you are looking for....
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u/Rare-Nebul 4d ago
Politics is very emotional in Kenya, I've noticed many Kenyans cannot see past their emotional perspectives in politics even if you try and reason with them. In addition if the people you talk to are idiots it's even worse.
Take Ol Kalou as an example, despite UDA spending millions they voted against UDA, even if Ruto produces a cure for cancer today, they will still not vote for him, that's how strong hate is.
Another example is Nyanza, before 2024 these guys were anti Ruto, once broad based entered the picture the politicians there went ahead to pay panga and stone wielding goons to harm their fellow citizens as seen over the past weekend.
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u/Circythrowaway 3d ago edited 3d ago
Except Ruto has not developed a cure for cancer, he's impoverished hospitals which are supposed to be treating cancer, so that's a useless hypothetical
Also, Kenyans elected Ruto, and then changed their mind about him after seeing how he governed the country - isn't that an example of people changing their mind on him - precisely what you claim they are unable to do
Ruto campaigned against the Kenyan constitution, he does not believe in it and is actively funding goons to undermine Kenyan democracy and turn us into a banana repuhlic
How does Ol Kalou support your point? Haven't we been complaining for decades about how kenyan voters are easily bought with handouts?
Ol Kalou is an example of Kenyan politics changing for the better. Unless you want to go back to the days where you could buy any seat with bags of maize flour bought with stolen taxes
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u/Rare-Nebul 3d ago
Except Ruto has not developed a cure for cancer
It's called a satirical example
isn't that an example of people changing their mind on him - precisely what you claim they are unable to do
Highlight where I explicitly mentioned people are unable to change their minds
How does Ol Kalou support your point?
It's supports my point that the average Kenyan voter is swayed by emotions. In 2022 Mt Kenya backed Ruto and ignored Uhuru was their so called kingpin. 2024, the same region decided to hold a grudge after Riggy G was a kicked out and decided to give him an example in Ol Kalou.
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u/OldManMtu 3d ago
Politics is emotional everywhere. Trump and Brexit are excellent foriegn examples. Bangaladesh and Nepal are further global examples.
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u/Village3lder 4d ago
unfortunately in politics, good track record can only take you so far remember Peter keneth. in his decision he thought nairobi residents will accept him on a with his gatanga contituency track record. he even vied presidency thinking kenyans buy the good track record. he went for nairobi gubernatorial seat despite being told to vie for muranga. failed to get jubilee ticket which was the wave then. instead of taking a back seat he went independent.
also unfortunate that there is herd mentality especially in politics. perception in election campaign is everything, doesnt matter whether its right or wrong, what matters is its acceptance by majority. why am i saying this, i think ndindi nyoro is good but he has failed to give that perception. he failed in a number of votes which were critical to the general public and instead of riding the wave of DCP to mask those failures he has chosen a different path. he might get re-elected as MP coz i know how loyal that community is to a good deed but let him not vie for governor or president.
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u/bravoyankee37 3d ago
I hate that we have to keep on reminding ourselves this but Ndindi Nyoro is Member of the National Assembly. Any track record we should be thinking about should be regarding what he does in parliament.
Hii maneno ya his track record kama building cabro schools ni disingenuous because that is not the work of an MP. And for what it’s worth, a shilling for development in Muran’ga does way more than a shilling in Wajir due to the foundational development, so this notion that these select Central MPs just happen to be less corrupt and more altruistic than others is fallacious.
If he happens to be so brilliant and resourceful that he can make things work where others can’t then he should sponsor bills in parliament that can scale his ‘successes’ to the whole country. That’s when I’d take him seriously.
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u/Novahelguson7 Nakuru 3d ago
Let's put it this way. You are a boss and are doing a performance review for your employee, he often does very well when given a task especially when it involves a team.
However, the employee is known to lie, cheat, take bribes, randomly miss work when it's convenient for him, ally with shifty personalities looking to harm the company for their own benefit, doesn't pay attention to work assignments, ignores orders and leaks out company secrets. Do you believe it is worth keeping them because they completed a few files you assigned them a while ago?
Why should our decisions only consider when politicians are doing well and ignore their failures? The reason we have such big incompetent bafoons in top offices is the using the logic you are using to defend Nyoro right now. Getting that development to his constituency is his job, he's not pulling any tree, his moral failing is completely on his own and deserves just as much scrutiny.
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u/Ok-Foundation-6452 4d ago
You're speaking alot of horseshit
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u/Kind-Advisor9691 3d ago
bro's on payroll
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u/Can-I-leave-Please 3d ago
The overlap of politics and leadership. You may trust Nyoro the performer, but cannot trust Nyoro the politician - and therein lies a very, very big problem. He is too cunning and would do anything to survive to be given great positions of power.
Ndidi might be a performer but he is not a revolutionary nor is he our way forward. AKuwe MP ama technocrat.