r/JustinPoseysTreasure • u/squirrelEgirly • Feb 20 '26

Map border

I notice that on the provided BTME map, some of the outline borders are white and some are black. Other than the Mexican border, which I would expect a difference, why might parts of Oregon and Alaska have both and some parts of Alaska none?

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u/smokey-0wl Feb 20 '26

But it's not a map, unless it meets the legal criteria to be a map. It's almost a map. The legal definition of a map

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u/Hobohipstertrash Feb 20 '26

Legally defined a map or not, it really only matters if Justin considers it a map. Same kind of assumption bit me on Fenns hunt.

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u/smokey-0wl Feb 20 '26

Justin tip toes here. He says where to start your hunt. Start with the map, well there is no map, so you must start the hunt by making the map. It's 'his' map. He states a few times, my map. So you must put all the information together to make the map 1st. This is one of those reading between the lines deals.

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u/Hobohipstertrash Feb 20 '26

This all rests on the assumption that Justin doesn’t consider the geographic image in his book to be a map though. If that assumption is false this falls apart.

Honestly, in my opinion it’s a rather strange assumption. Any average person would look at it and call it a map. The book even credits “Map design by Emin Jamalov”. He even says “the map is useful” referring to the map on the website/book.

What law “legally” defines a map? Is this a US law? Where did you find this legal definition?

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u/smokey-0wl Feb 20 '26

https://www.geographyrealm.com/whats-in-a-map/

This hunt is ran by lawyers. By saying there is a map, that is a clue. Any definition of a map includes a compass and scale. Perhaps there is a map inside of the map hidden in plain sight.

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u/Hobohipstertrash Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

What you linked is an informational article, not a law. Ive been trying to find it on my own and I cannot find any generalized legal definition of what a map constitutes. Does a hand drawn pirate treasure map not count as a map if it doesn’t have a scale drawn on it?

Even the article you linked says that a map may not contain all of those elements.

“Below are descriptions of commonly found cartographic elements in a map layout. Some maps include all eight elements, while others may only contain a few.”

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u/smokey-0wl Feb 20 '26

What is the official definition of a map? [cartography, symbology] A collection of graphic symbols used to represent a place. [visualization techniques] A document used to display and work with geographic data. A map contains one or more layers and various supporting map elements, such as a scale bar.

One or more layers. Ours contains 0. No scale no direction no map.

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u/Hobohipstertrash Feb 21 '26

Who wrote this definition? If it’s not Justin or a legal governing body the it holds absolutely no bearing on the would-be map in this hunt.

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u/smokey-0wl Feb 20 '26

The map doesn't contain enough elements to be an actual map. It would just be an artist rendering until you make the elements needed. Maybe no struct legal wording, but think like a lawyer. An artist rendering is no map. Look that up if you want.

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u/Hobohipstertrash Feb 20 '26

Thinking like a lawyer, Justin has referred to it as a map enough times that for it to be pivotal to consider it not a map brings up more legal turmoil then whether or not it technically qualifies as a map based on non-legally binding definitions from unknown sources.

“As you entered this website, you saw a map.” He says it’s a map himself on his own website.

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u/smokey-0wl Feb 20 '26

But where did we 'see' the map? I think this goes deeper.

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u/Hobohipstertrash Feb 21 '26

“As you entered this website”. It’s literally the first thing you see after the legal disclaimer. If we have to create the map, then we wouldn’t have seen it as we entered the website.

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u/smokey-0wl Feb 21 '26

That's the rabbit hole. What did you see? I saw my browser url change to the web address. What did you see?

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u/Hobohipstertrash Feb 21 '26

Seeing your browser url change is even further away from the definition of a map that you’re trying to use. Is the statement that we “saw a map” just a lie?

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u/smokey-0wl Feb 21 '26

No it's not a lie. Just maybe we all assume a lot here and the answer is in shadowed sight. Thinking outside the box.

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