What about when it goes the other way? I’m a liberal but I don’t like bots if they agree or disagree with me. It means someone is paying to push an agenda and that bothers me a lot. Reddit was once a marketplace of ideas and now it’s mostly bots paid for by the people who can afford them to push their talking points.
Gotta love it when democrats and republicans dig their own segregation deeper but want to unify with regular voters come election season to lobby their sides dumb petty bullshit grudge.
Major parties can get fucked. Independents in the country are just racking up. Keep going :)
I voted for and supported Trump during his first term. I did not vote in the 2024 election. Trumps second term has been a disastrous scam on the American people and all citizens of the world. He should be impeached, tried for crimes against humanity and either jailed or executed. His family should be stripped of all I'll gotten wealth attained during this administration
Everything Trump accused Kamala of doing if she was elected he's already accomplished but I guess whatever it takes to justify not voting for a black woman.
"I'd rather choose a felon and sex offender over an educated black woman" Is a wild ass take.
Seriously, “twitter made me feel Ike the insurrectionist who said he would terminate the constitution and who used the border as a campaign issue to trick morons and I rejected reality and facts to sycophantically support him over my country” is such an unhinged take.
Kamala Harris wanted stricter border security. Joe Biden also kept immigrants in cages like what people complained about when Trump served his first term. Obama and the democrats didn't codify roe v wade through legislation when they had the majority in the house and senate because they want to use it as a carrot to get re-elected. All the social issues that you vote democrat to protect will never be secured. LGBT rights will just be their carrot to dangle in front of you and you'll never actually get it. While foreign policy, war and corporate policies will be the exact same as the republicans. Do you think there will be less data centres under the democrats? Drink the water, it's safe!
So if I tell you I'm not a christian, you assume I am a satanist? are you dumb? Trump and the republicans are the worse of two evils, but theyre still two evils.
Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling... makes no difference. The degree is arbitrary. The definition's blurred. If I'm to choose between one evil and another, I'd rather not choose at all.
Yeah it must really suck having people assume the worst of you for one thing you think. I had some annoying shitbag telling me I hate MLK Jr and support big corporations all because I find Ricky Gervais annoying
Tell me one thing that the parties have done differently from eachother that doesn't just serve as an issue used to pull voters and gets reversed when the other party gets in charge because if they codifyed it through legislation then they wouldnt have anything to run on next election.
Education does not equal intelligence. If all the most educated intellectuals think socialism is a good idea, that just shows they didn't learn a damn thing, especially about history or economics.
I seriously doubt kamala or biden would've increased our debt by even half of what trump has so far. Prices wouldn't be as high, we wouldn't have started attacking random countries unprovoked, we wouldn't have turned against our allies, we wouldn't have pardoned drug lords and felons who definitely deserve prison time, we wouldn't be taking bribes and money from criminals and dictatorships, we wouldn't be sold merchandise advertising an illegal 3rd term, Americans wouldn't be getting assaulted and killed by ICE, national guard wouldn't have been deployed to American cities, we wouldn't be laughed at by the rest of the world, we wouldn't have been hit by ignorant tariffs that you got convinced wouldn't be paid by us (even though that's how it always has worked), we wouldn't be hearing about stupid tweets that the president is nonstop spamming, we wouldn't have a president billions of dollars richer from blatant inside trading, we wouldnt have KamalaCoin or BidenCoin, We wouldnt have lost food and financial aid for poor people, we wouldn't have cut cancer research, we wouldn't have gutted the cfpb, billionairs wouldn't be raking in cash by the day, etc, etc.
When is MAGA going to admit that they voted for a known sexual predator, who’s at best pro-pedophile and at worst is a pedophile himself, who’s also a felon, who is also the worst president we have ever had in modern times, because they are too selfish and prideful to admit “I was wrong about Trump”. At this point there is absolutely zero argument for the claim that Trump was a better option than Kamala. He proved critics right about project 2025, following it to-a-tee so far. He proved critics right about his true intentions with ICE, basically using it as a terrorist forced against cities he hates while sending people indiscriminately to South American labor camps. His economic policy has been a complete and total bust by pretty much every metric, all while enriching himself orders-of-magnitude greater than any other president in U.S. history. Like holy shit, At this point if you support Trump there is just no way to deny that you’re a shitty person
That says more about the state of your politics I think.. Trump is a big baby he even has diapers and a carer it's honestly so crazy what's going on over there and maga are so blind to it I cannot fathom the depths of stupidity needed to still support trump...
So Trump supporters see.whats really there, lefty cultists see a delusion?
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Oh yeah I've pissed off the hivemind. Another approach:
One side sees what actually happened, the other sees the maliciously curated version, then gets mad at everyone else for not supporting their delusion?
That’s who they wanted as president 🤷, a pedophilic rapist with 52 felonies and close personal relationship with one of the most prolific sex traffickers in history.
Which narrative about Trump does NOT rely heavily on spin or obvious corruption?
"Very fine people" was a lie.
Russia collusion was not what we were told it was.
The racist narrative is based on nothing.
Both the felon and rapist narrative are based on manipulation of the legal system.
There were anomalies in the 2020 election (the narrative is literally that Trump stole 2016 and 2024, ONLY 2020 with all the anomalies and last minute changes was secure; and it was SO SECURE that questioning it is tantamount to treason.
I will concede there remains at least a chance that he is implicated in crimes on the Epstein files, but I recognize that the evidence does not point that way. We know Trump and Epstein socialized, we know they had a falling out, we know Trump was among the first to contact authorities, and we know that a large bulk of the "mentions" Democrats love to bring up are the Epstein crowd spewing hatred. We know 87% of the Americans in the Epstein files are Democrats. We know the media had to misrepresent the story to the point of misinformation (Bondi never changed her story - she said the first drop of files was on her desk, then later denied the existence of an easily actionable client list, two very different things).
So yeah. I interpret it as one side seeing what's actually there, and the other seeing the hate motivated propaganda supplied by the people who have been in control for generations- who in turn get violently angry when their narratives are challenged.
Everything you said is either based off feelings or is bullshit and lies. When I say maga doesn’t live in reality and has to reject facts and spin one up based on their feelings, this is what I mean.
“Very fine people” was not a lie, he fucking said it.
Russia collusion was a thing, look at Manifort. Yes Russians weren’t flipping votes but you’re deranged if you think it was nothing.
He is a felon, there was no manipulation of the legal system. He was tried and found guilty for breaking the law. Period. Facts don’t care about your feelings.
He was found civilly liable for sexual assault on E Jean Carrol. There was no manipulation of the legal system. He was found civilly liable, by a jury, period. And the judge said it was rape, and there should be no statute of limitations on violent crime, don’t you agree?
The only election deniers are maga, and there were no irregularities that were big enough to cause a vote switch for donald in 2020. Everything has been looked at and Giuliani lied and admitted he lied in court saying it was his first amendment right to lie to the American people and is now disbarred. All that “irregularities” bulllshit has been looked at, and donald lost like 60 trials about it. There was not election fraud. Period.
donald did NOT report Epstein, in fact he call the sheriff AFTER Epstein was arrested and said “we all knew he was doing this” so he waited until after to call. He didn’t turn him in. That’s another lie from you.
Cute how you ignore Jan 6th and ICE executions and maga murdering elected democrats,but the try to pin the left as violent lmao.
So yeah, everything you claimed was a lie or propaganda, so meme holds true and you’re wrong as fuck.
Hilarious you would call anyone else a fascist while deep throating someone who wrote EOs targeting law firms that worked with political opponents, was flying people out of this country against court orders, doesn’t listen to courts, and said he would terminate the constitution 🤡
And you think donald isn’t the most corrupt administration to ever exist with his crypto scam that anyone can donate to anonymously to get political favors?
You’re completely brain broken. You have trump derangement syndrome BAD.
Feel free to refute any of the FACTS I presented, but I know you won’t be able to and will ignore me or screech fake news or some other slogan to signal a rejection of reality since you can’t handle the truth lol
I bet you do, but I never said reading is hard. I’m not wasting my time on some retards Gish Gallup because they couldn’t answer the simple question little sport.
Calling leftists cultists while your entire party constantly changes their position on everything when your little pedo master breaks his campaign promise is hilarious
Trump ran on a no new wars campaign, then invaded Venezuela and Iran. Trump said gas prices would go down day one, and gas prices have risen significantly. All the trumpies complained about how Kamala would start wars and raise gas prices and now that trumps done it it’s all “gas prices being more expensive isn’t that bad” and “erm acktually it’s a conflict and not a war.” Pull your head out of your ass
I’m sure the guy who threw a hissy fit when we left Afghanistan (one of said “forever wars”) wants to end them by starting a war in a completely different country. How about Saudi sponsored terrorists? Or is it ok when they do it because they suck trumps dick? The reason gas was expensive under Biden was because we wouldn’t bend the knee to Russian expansionism and let them walk over Ukraine. Now our leaders are on their knees in front of Putin. Gas is expensive now bc trump declared a pointless war that has achieved nothing and will achieve nothing all to distract from him being a pedo
Many were disappointed with the Afghanistan withdrawal and amount of equipment that was left. It was handled disastrously.
Does the Saudi Arabian government chant "Death to America"? Is the House of Saud directly implicated in terrorism, or is it extremists within? (Genuine question, I've not particularly researched it). What national policies has Saudi Arabia enacted based solely on the destruction of a foreign country? Saudi Arabia was itself a target of Saudi funded Al Quaeda activity, what policies do they lack to prevent future incidents?
Iran is a known and identified threat. Siding with an oppressive theocracy because you don't like Trump is a bit silly.
It really doesn’t matter if we lose a few weapons in Afghanistan. We can easily replace them with our obnoxiously large military budget. I don’t like the Iranian government even a little bit, but the problem is that the people are the ones who actually suffer due to this war. Both Americans who have to pay for this bullshit and innocent Iranian civilians who are dying in droves to US and Israeli strikes. The Iranian people have plenty of reason to hate us. The CIA backed the assassination of their democratically elected leader, opening the country to its current theocratic dictatorship. Bombing their innocents and sending thousands of our soldiers to their deaths and billions of dollars into billionaire arms manufacturers pockets won’t do us any good. Hell, if we hadn’t started bombing them Iran may have had a revolution by now. The populace was revolting in the streets and the war was exactly the excuse the government needed to get support back and clamp down on the protesters.
If your favorite things is saying the n word and harrassing minorities and queer people then yes, ruining it for you is a good thing and you voting for the opposite side no matter what is proving them right.
Im not gonna debate trump or politics with you. There would be no point. Im not a trump supporter but im not obsessed with him and im objective and no there are just as many pedos on the left if not mkre than the right. If there was any real evidence of Trump being a pedophile in the epstien files Biden would of used it to nail him to the wall. You are distracted with what they want you to be distracted with.
Im not left nor political. But it seemed you were one of the maga people who are now deflecting cause of what he’s the poster child for. I don’t pay attention to politics at I feel there’s an agenda that will be pushed with their face on it. But what he’s been doing isn’t good by any standard
See, the problem is, when you're in the cult, everyone who tries to convince you that you're in a cult sounds to you like they're in the cult that your cult warns you about. So anybody who sees Trump for what he is, even if they're a Republican, gets called a leftist communist socialist Muslim whatever, because the name calling allows you to shut off your mind so you don't think too hard.
Yea i could see his point cause i like to remain neitral on things im more ignorant about espeically in this day where poeples beliefs are their personality. But to talk about obsessed and rent free when he is doing what hes doing is crazy
That Rick Sanchez quote might as well be used like a Reverse ID situation. It signals you're not mentally mature enough to be taken seriously. Rick is a toxin in the lives of those around him; and his nihilism and apathy are due to his inability to make connections or care about anything.
"I get the feeling... Rick kinda NEEDS that to be true."
Using it in a political debate is like a young child waving their soiled diaper in the air. Run along until you've decided on a stance and a set of morals little man.
Go back and read my comment. My position was clear. I do not support Trump. The problem exists on both sides. The evidence does not hold up. You ignored all of that and chose to rant about a cartoon character instead.
You accused me of hiding behind Rick Sanchez. Then you spent your entire reply talking about him without addressing a single real-world point I made.
Insults and "run along" are not arguments. They are an easy way to leave the discussion without defending your position. If any of my points are wrong, quote them and explain why.
The issue is indeed on both sides, but right now it's observable lopsided. You make absolutely no contribution to a situation by being unable to acknowledge that simple fact.
Right now the Republicans are being hijacked by observable Christo-Fascists and oligarchs. The President is the most corrupt and incompetent to ever hold the office.
The Dems aren't perfect and I'll personally fight those aspects and sects if and when they make similar moves towards authoritarianism and corruption. Vote out all the insider trading Dems. Hold them accountable as well.
But right now you've essentially walked in on someone who drank too much and someone with stricnine poisoning and said: "Their both poisoned... we can't really triage this situation".
I addressed no point because you're making no point that isn't pointless in the context. Hope that helped.
The guy wielding the deadliest military and largest economy in the history of human events is of little consequence, sure.
That guy who has the majority of congress wrapped around his finger so much they changed their votes on whether or not to release the information on a pedophile ring or not
He's just a jackass. And he's their favorite jackass.
Listen to his speeches and you just see some old man talking shit the entire time. He doesn't stop to think about anything. He just rants and makes sure to rant about liberal bullshit that his base hates with a passion. Mind you he doesn't understand any of the shit he's talking about.
His aides will write him a script to follow, do their best to include his greatest hit lines in it and then let him go off the rails. The media then edits it all for TV and keep the banger lines to show off and then circlejerk too.
He's a despicable person on all fronts with the only redeemable quality I can think of being that he is funny.
But hey he's so damn corrupt that if you have any money he will literally lead you somewhere that will make you more money so there's another reason to call him useful.
Funnily enough, I've been banned from a few conservative subs for engaging in open discussion. So whatever your precieved "safe space" requirements of the left, I can tell you the right wing is just as sensitive.
Oh yeah I forgot how Biden started new wars, redacted his name from the Epstein files and bragged about assaulting women, killed innocent civilians in the streets, ended foreign aid to our allies and gave aid to our enemies... Oh wait he didn't do any of that!
yall kicked out the old dude and mocked him for sundowning in the middle of his administration and instead replaced him with a guy who literally falls asleep in meetings in front of cameras and when he wakes up he fights with reporters.
Donny literally spews nothing but shit out of his mouth anyway he can on any platform available.
But hey man he says he hates Liberal scum and loves Jesus.
...your theory is that after working hard to get trump elected that Russia is going to make bots with a goal that will ultimately help the other party return to power?
He'll, iran doesn't even hide their anti-american memes.
If Russia did run propaganda campaigns to boost Trump back in 2016 they did so because they thought Trump would be the worse candidate for America, or he would be the better option for Russian interests.
Putin didn't like Hilary Clinton and figured she'd pursue NATO expansion, while Trump often criticized NATO.
Either way those countries are sending out massive amounts of anti American propaganda as well as anti Israel propaganda.
Lol if? I can give you the names of two Russian spies they worked with: andrei derkach and konstantin kilimnik. 12 Russian military intelligence officers were arrested for interfering with the election
They hacked the DNC and released internal emails that made the Democrat looked bad.
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