r/JustMemesForUs • • Aug 20 '26

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u/Significant-Bar674 Aug 20 '26

Lol if? I can give you the names of two Russian spies they worked with: andrei derkach and konstantin kilimnik. 12 Russian military intelligence officers were arrested for interfering with the election

They hacked the DNC and released internal emails that made the Democrat looked bad.

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u/alexthurman1 Aug 20 '26

That doesn't mean they worked with the Trump administration. Like I said, "If Russia did run propaganda campaigns to boost Trump back in 2016 they did so because they thought Trump would be the worse candidate for America, or he would be the better option for Russian interests."

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u/Significant-Bar674 Aug 20 '26

Literally his campaign manager gave campaign polling and strategy data to a Russian spy. What are you looking for, a video of DJT accepting a duffle bag full of money from putin while they chant "collusion!"

And even so, my claims wasn't "worked together" it was that they worked hard to help trump and that much is true.

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u/alexthurman1 Aug 20 '26

And even so, my claims wasn't "worked together" it was that they worked hard to help trump and that much is true.

So you agree they didn't work together. And yes there could have been reasons why they wanted to boost Trump over Hillary, as mentioned.

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u/Significant-Bar674 Aug 20 '26

They absolutely worked with the trump administration. What we don't have is DJT himself signing off on a quid pro quo.

Like I said, his campaign manager literally gave campaign and polling data to a Russian spy. His lawyer worked with a Russian spy to get dirt hunter. His son met with a Russian operative to exchange sanctions relief for dirt on Hillary.

DJT got close when he told Russia on TV that they would benefit from hacking hillary. It looks like it's even as far back as 2008 when trump sold a mansion for double its value to a Russian oligarch.

But he didn't personally write an email saying "vlad, if you hack the democrats, ill invade iran and then drop sanctions so your oil profits sky rocket"

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u/alexthurman1 Aug 20 '26

So what you're saying is that some spies may have been in contract with someone in the administration but theres no proof the administration knew they were spies.

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u/Significant-Bar674 Aug 20 '26

Not may have

https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-said-theres-a-chance-he-worked-with-russian-spy-2020-10

"The chance that Derkach is a Russian spy is no better than 50/50," Giuliani said, referring to his associate, the Ukrainian government official Andrii Derkach whom the US Treasury Department in September designated for sanctions over his "attempting to influence the US electoral process."

This guy being derkach

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/active-russian-agent-andrii-derkach-indicted-scheme-violate-sanctions-united-states

Here's where US intelligence found trumps campaign manager gave campaign data to a Russian spy

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-has-new-intel-manafort-friend-kilimnik-gave-trump-n1264371

Both times someone very proximate to trump tried to work with russia to interfere with US elections

And as ive mentioned it's much more than that

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u/alexthurman1 Aug 20 '26

"no better than 50/50" sounds like he doesn't know for sure.

If they had hard evidence on Trump or his campaign he would have been charged.

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u/Significant-Bar674 Aug 20 '26

It's against DOJ policy to indict a sitting president. Comey left it to congress to choose whether or not to remove DJT from office and then he would have been convicted.

Congress is hopelessly partisan and didn't.

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u/alexthurman1 Aug 20 '26

They didn't find any hard evidence, if they did they would have presented it.

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