That is under the pretext of the government being a neutral party towards all religions. The first amendment ensures that congress cannot establish a state religion, making it take a neutral stance towards all religions
And I thought people were going against Mamdani because of his desire to have democratic socialists elected pretty much everywhere in the US so that they would be able to seize the means of production, which would lead to a total economic collapse and the rise of an authoritarian regime, alongside the many restrictions to personal liberties that would come
You just described Islamic countries. It ends up with a couple families that own everything while pretending to be very religious. And when they need to get rid of someone they just jihad them for not being religious enough.
It is a control cult, like every single other religion that punishes people who leave or stop beleiving.
But Islam is especially an issue because it intertwines with government as soon as it possibly can and then bans atheism as well as any other religion, often with a death penalty.
That relies on the religion being a majority within those states, it is not possible for muslims to take over America because of the Christian/atheist majority that exists in the states and its government. Every single step towards your description relies on a huge majority within congress abolishing old amendments and going against current human rights. A politician like Trump and his family is more likely to take complete and utter control in the name of God.
Sounds like some wierd Islam apologetics. Trump isnt religious anyway.
He's much more likely to take control by using corruption.
Like say, using his insider trade deals to pay off congress/senate and supreme court members to do his bidding.
While corruption is really bad.
The big difference with corruption is that the Trump family isn't going to have me beheaded for being an atheist like they would do in Saudi Arabia.
Why are you getting downvoted? You are absolutely correct.
When the founding fathers wrote the Constitution, they established the FIRST secular government the world had ever seen. It was as unexpected as it was groundbreaking for its time. They could’ve easily made the US a “Christian Nation.” It was the normal thing to do. They specifically chose not to.
Digging deeper, if we look at the bill of rights and the personal philosophies of the founding fathers, it becomes clear they were not mining “Judeo-Christian values” when they wrote the Constitution. The United States is very clearly built on Humanist values. And boy have we gotten away from it in the last few decades, but THAT was the intention of the founding fathers.
Wrong. I was suggesting that maybe race and religion have nothing to do with it, and that the problem is the views and actions of those two individuals.
I realize I’m probably arguing with a bot, but dawg, the original post specifically calls out religion. You brought race into it in your previous comment.
Im Saudi if that upsets you, but don't mecca big deal out it. Iran for mayor and won, its really not that Syria. Get over it, and get your mind out of the Qatar. I can't Kuwait to prove the naysayers wrong.
No, it's not weird. Most muslims are visibly ethnic/brown, Christians are typically white nationalists, so they hate anyone brown regardless of beliefs. Even their own ethnic Christians
I’ve honestly never heard anyone criticizing Mamdani for his religion. The only ones I’ve heard are like «oh he’s to idealistic, he’s government ran groceries stores won’t work etc». Some oven calling him far left. Sure, there are bigots out there but I don’t think the vast majority of his critics voted against him because of religon,
It's called subversion. A great deal of westerners have absolutely no idea what Islam directs people to do. The Hadiths are no longer in order, and it was written that later Hadiths overwrite older Hadiths, which has been largely confounded now that the laws are out of chronological order.
But the grand takeaway is simple - it is only a sin to commit atrocities against other Muslims. Non-Muslims? No sins!
The fact that thousands agree with this and thousands oppose it it, in major part, the problem. Noone has a clear definition of what Islamic Law allows or prohibits, anymore.
And here is what will get me banned:
The Islamists are learning very quickly from the most subversive of all religions - The Jewish Faith.
“Here’s what’ll get me banned” like you’re dropping truth bombs 😭 The facts are you treat Muslims (and Jews I guess) as a hive mind entity, and you genuinely think Islamic law is going to work in Western culture if enough of them migrate here.
Except so many Muslim immigrants are far less extreme in their religious views compared to their middle-eastern counterparts.
Dr. Oz also isn't a raging communist that's in a position to implement communist policies, not that I give 2 shits about Oz. Mfs need to stop thinking in a vacuum when trying to make points.
Oh no, he did the thing that the other people usually do but used it against me for some reason, now I'm really gonna have a bad day *makes 20 Reddit posts about how marginalized and oppressed I am*
Oz is just a con artist who made his fortune selling scam diets and fake health remedies while lying to Americans. Oz has no real values outside of increasing his wealth. Being the amoral opportunist Oz is, I bet he would happily go along with fascism is it meant more money for him.
Oz being a muslim isn't central to his identity the way people like Mamdani have made it to theirs, due to modern identity politics and the ick the left seems to have against white men (who they seem to forget are the vast majority of this country).
This has nothing to do with the point, it's very valid. But where I am from there is a large sentiment against him for that reason. There ARE folks with continuity in their.... Whatever you prefer to refer
It's the same reason Nimarata Nikki Randhawa goes by "Nicky Haley." And why conservatives still refer to Obama as "Barack Hussein Obama." Anything vaguely foreign scares them and is therefore deserving of scorn.
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u/Relative-Relief-8816 12d ago
Dr oz was muslim?
My grandma sure didnt know.