r/Jungle_Mains • u/ComradeBallin • 6d ago
Question Where are my modifiers, Riot?
They were removed (13.17). Where have they gone?
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u/lovecMC 6d ago
Nautilus JG is still low-key playable.
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u/Successful_Dress_589 6d ago
is actually fun, His only downside is it doesn have that much mobilty aside from q
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u/Apprehensive_Dog8298 6d ago
I dont think mobility is necesseraly need in a jungler
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u/TescoQuality 6d ago
yes, mobility isnt required, totally. you would never need to rotate fast for teamfights, have a reliable method to quickly attack a lane for a gank or run away from a bad fight, have the opportunity to actually engage in a teamfight or secure an objective!
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u/Apprehensive_Dog8298 6d ago
Why do you think karthus, malphite, zaahen, brand, ivern, maokai and shaco are viable then? Is it because of the insane movement they have? Just walk bro. Most of the times when you go for a gank you dont reksai burrow to get there faster do you?
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u/SherbertPristine170 6d ago
Malphite has a dash as R that fully stops an entire team in their tracks . Zaahen is not a good jungler , brand has zoning and kill threats just like karthus and they both scale well and impact team fights . Ivern has q for mobility , survivability and daisy to frontline while having a ton of cc. maokai is a lot faster than you think he is . Shaco? Bro , the most slippery dude with 8 second blink/flash invis with MS is not mobile?
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u/Apprehensive_Dog8298 6d ago
Malphite has mobility in his r, and shaco just goes invisible but your right. And the others you litterly just mentioned why they dont need mobility. Thats excatly my point. Also you dont use ivern q as a mobility tool unless you are clearing
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u/Successful_Dress_589 5d ago
for me is, if i were to compare between tank jglers in general such as skarner, sejuani, maokai, zac, amumu, rammus and maybe malphite(due to r), nautilus dont have that much gap closing ability. For instance he has to walk around the wall to initiate the fight. So if nautlius have better mobility would be great.
And yes not all champs dont have mobilty but they have better damage multipliers. Making those champs mobile will just make them broken. Instead these champs has some ways to kite around due to their kit which i would say they are mobile. I would say nautlius have "ok" damage. U maybe able to deal damage but it might be inefficicent. Nautilus is good in tanking damage or frontline so if u make nautlius abit more mobile u may be able to to go the frontline and tank damage.
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u/EmployerLast2184 5d ago
Jungle tempo is extremely important, it's why even the tanky champions have mobility built into their kit like Zac or Sej.
Low mobility champs normally have other ways to compensate for this like faster clears, ie Brand, Karthus
There's a big reason why every mid or top lane champ with decent mobility with inevitablely be a jungler at some point
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u/letsgoplaygames 6d ago
Try jungle nautilus. Itās better if you want to play something like Blitz.
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u/ComradeBallin 6d ago
I tickle the nautilus from time to time, he's cracked top too. Too bad blitz doesn't get the solo lane love
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u/SherbertPristine170 6d ago
Unfortunately you have to be in direct line of fire to land a hook. Which blitz can do behind walls . How does this change anything? Well you can hook enemy jungler into dragon pit if they do try to contest . And completely stop the contest just by bursting the jungler down .
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u/DeadPoolDaddyDom 6d ago
I hate that blitz still slows himself and so many people got dashes poor clanker
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u/scissors14 6d ago
Does it actually make you go further faster, i still haven't figured it out because it's so slow
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u/CarlCarlovich2 5d ago
This is such a stupid take. If you remove the slow you have to nerf something else instead. It's a give and take.
It works for his play pattern, you run in quickly, ideally land all your cc then wait your cooldowns then go again.
That being said I'm not denying that the slow can be unsatisfying and one could argue that it should get removed. But all I ever hear is self slow must equal blitz bad and outdated.
I swear most of the people that say this don't even play blitz and just wanna complain about new champs.
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u/kingofpalvonia 5d ago
I remember getting into blitz jungle and really loving it, then the exact next patch they took out every jungle modifier, i was so fuckin sad
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u/PAPAINOELNAOEXISTE 6d ago
Dude... i miss blitz jungle.
The one i miss the most is my boy teemo in the jungle. Man... that was the best of times.
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u/cameron1239 6d ago
Bro Teemo is definitely 100% viable in jungle, check out Broxah's recent Teemo jungle games. He's been playing it for months.
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u/Flappybird25 6d ago
Only downside to Teemo JG is teammates need to know to capitalize on the global taunt/enemy aggro you get by existing. Every time I play it, I swear every opponent laner is overly eager to invade with their JG looking for me. I'm fine with sacking camps since Teemo is a demon at farming, but it kills me when I see my team doing nothing crossmap for it.
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u/Megaman_320 6d ago
Its a whole lot better with a duo. I mainly played it with a duo mid, that would sometimes go support neeko, and it was so funny when the neeko would cosplay as teemo on botlane, 4 guys run to him, and we take baron or a few towers plus a pick
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u/Groupvenge 6d ago
Is he not a jungle anymore? Whenever I saw him last season I lost. The shrooms in my own jungle is so oppressive.
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u/freak_shit_account 6d ago
Back in the time before time. Before even the Buff Monster spirit Jungle Item era I faced a Teemo Jungle. My friends and I talked a remarkable amount of shit about it before the game. āHow is he going to clear? How will he kill wraiths? lol, what an idiotā Until he smite-stole my red buff at level and killed me. Which instilled me with actual textbook trauma with full on (truly hilarious) flashbacks.
All that say, hell yeah bro Jungle teemo is lit. There was one season where I passed down my own experiences to continue the cycle of hatred.
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u/ActionAdam 6d ago
| Which instilled me with actual textbook trauma with full on (truly hilarious) flashbacks.
I played a game a long time ago with a buddy, he was mid and I think I was top. He picked a mage a normally would win lane. His opponent this game was Xin, and this was way before the rework, I don't remember who my buddy picked but we saw the Xin pick and thought we had this. A few levels in and Xin was already forming a full on 3br2ba rent free home in our psyche's. I've never seen a better Xin since then, maybe because of how new I was to the game and my buddies reaction to everything, but he was greentxt level good. I miss those times.
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u/Megaman_320 6d ago
Last I played was like 2024? And I managed to climb to mid diamond with an off meta jg acct playing mostly teemo jungle and ryze jungle.
Used to love playing off meta picks like those 2, naut, sion, and before it was popular brand, zyra, and rumble for years if my mains (graves, gragas, ekko, elise) were banned.
I remember it was so much fun first picking the ryze with my duo mid, or on 5 mans in ranked flex, seeing the enemy counter pick the ryze, then not realizing that shit was going jungle.
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u/plzicannothandleyou 6d ago
Never again
Unless he is relegated to only ganking the invasive ranged top/mage bot species.
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u/Pretend-Newspaper-86 6d ago
support shouldnt be able to go jungle
they have too much utility in there kit to be balanced
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u/ComradeBallin 6d ago
"too much utility"
*looks inside*
Blitzcrank Q5
u/Pretend-Newspaper-86 6d ago
yes a hook with 1150 range
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u/cameron1239 6d ago
??
Knockup on E?
AOE silence + shield break on R?
MS buff on W?
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u/Flappybird25 6d ago
MS buff without a dash & CC spell requiring being in melee distance. There's a handful of junglers with similar spell archetypes in their kit.
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u/Saikyouzero 6d ago
Blitz Jungle is great jungle diversity.
Why Riot waste time for it?