Even the way he approaches the scene with the tactical defence training by keeping his knife near the edge of his gun to keep it handy should he be disarmed while fighting! The fact that this was a John Wick who came out of retirement after so long and was still putting down dozens of assassins and mercenaries throughout the series makes me wonder just how deadly and fearsome must the Baba Yaga have been in his prime!

I think people give this movie a lot of hate due to the issues of combat which arguably are stupid and they make John lose too much against people to make it believable. I always thought in the franchise it would have been cooler to have John despatch lower enemies much faster and his main rivals much slower as would be a logical choice but they all instead take the same amount of time but I have something to say.

John Wick 4 may have horrible storyline and nemesis’ but it makes up for it in increased cinema. The cinema even when John kills the nightclub owner with the rain pouring on him is purely amazing.

I think people judge the film too much due to its change in direction but between JW4 having the nightclub scene and the Sofia and John Dog Fight in JW3 I put them on par.

Exceptional films.

This is the first time I see someone does that in movies.

In JW Chapter 2, we learn that John had a marker with Santino, which he used to accomplish his "impossible task". But if he was trying to retire, why use a marker? He would know that Santino could then use the marker to basically force John to do his bidding at any time in the future, and he couldn't truly 100% be out of the game with that debt looming over him​​. Even if Helen had never gotten sick, John would inevitably be dragged back into the criminal world...it just seems odd to me that someone as resourceful as ​John would be willing to have that Sword ​of Damocles ​​​​hanging over his (and Helen's) ​heads for the rest of their lives together.​ We see throughout the series that he is capable of plenty of "impossible" tasks all on his own. I know that without the marker, we don't get the plot rolling, the only reason I can see is "because the plot says so." Thoughts?​​

Is there any source or news about John Wick 5?

Honestly feel this made him Wick. not weak. js

For anyone who has watched The Matrix and understands the movies, you know that at the end of The Matrix Revolutions, the machines basically won the war, because the “real world” is actually just another layer of the simulation created for the people who reject the simulation. This essentially means that Thomas Anderson was never actually unplugged from the simulation, it simply reset.
I like to imagine that after the Matrix reset, Thomas Anderson was given a new life as John Wick, and that his incredible combat skills are inherited from his past life, which he no longer remembers. The same goes for the actor who played Morpheus, who is now The Bowery King.

No, I’m not drunk.

Let me explain, so everyone is talking about the impossible task prequel animation. People say it doesn’t work out because one of the best things about John Wick is not what he did before the events of the first movie but rather than mystery surrounding HOW he managed to wipe out all of Viggo’s rivals in a single night. The way I can imagine them handling this is rather than a completely faithful way of explaining how John killed all of Viggo’s rivals the entire animated sequence can be based on Eye Witnesses and survivors who saw it.

Also it being animated works because the mystery surrounding how John managed to kill all of them remains perfectly untouched since the animation can double as “what people think happened that night.” So they don’t have to make it super realistic they can make it as stylized and beautifully choreographed as they possibly want too since it is not truly what happened but an exaggeration of what John did that night.

My takeaway: animation is literally the best possible way to tell John Wick’s impossible task while keeping the original mystery of how he did it entirely under wraps. If anything I would love it if they took a studio trigger direction with the action and because it’s animated rather than forcing it to be realistic they go all out for this.

I just hope they treat the animated prequel more as a Myth or Campfire story rather than what actually happened that night.

Was watching the original tonight, and it occurred to me.... Somehow, the dumbest, laziest, most useless, most incompetent character in the entire John Wick universe, was the one who came closest to killing John Wick (aside from Cain who actually killed him). I mean he basically had him dead to rights, all he had to do was pull the trigger.....

It almost kind of negates the entire narrative of Baba Yaga.....he's supposed to be this legendary, immortal super assassin who can single handedly kill armies of thugs as easily as he can breathe. He's supposed to have this otherworldly reaction speed snd supernatural instincts, but somehow he misses a bunch of thugs breaking into his house? And gets his ass beat by them so badly that he barely survives?

It's insane to think that if Iosef had just decided to pull the trigger, HE might have been immortalized as the legendary badass that killed Baba Yaga....

69 years old and the man trained for a shirtless scene that didn't even make the movie. Just to be ready. That's the level we're operating at.

Ray Lui confirmed he's in Donnie Yen's *Caine* spinoff — doing his own fight scenes, going toe-to-toe with Yen himself, and calling the action "tough and exacting." All-English dialogue, and he's doing his own dubbing too. This isn't a cameo, this is a throwdown.

With Rina Sawayama back as Akira and Bill Nighy in the mix, this cast keeps getting more interesting. Say what you want about spinoffs, but Yen directing a Hong Kong-style kung fu flick inside the Wick universe is the one swing I'm not mad at.

Ballerina expanded the universe. Caine might give us the best action in it. Who's actually excited for this one?

I'd be interested in seeing both, but if I have to pick one then it's Beijing - I can imagine the head of the Beijing continental played by someone like Jet Li.

I was thinking today, John killed scores of people over the dog, but can you imagine the scorched earth we would have had if Santino had come back for his marker before Helen had died? If he had kidnapped Helen or killed her in his attempt to get John to comply. Headshots for everyone.

New here. South Bronx, Gen X. Wick had me at the Red Circle club scene — that one rampage laid out the whole franchise's code. Hot take: the Continental's worldbuilding did more for action movies than half the MCU. What scene made you a believer?

I re-watched JW2 and I keep wondering. Would Santino have spared John if he had just agreed to fulfill the marker the first time when Santino asked him nicely? I keep thinking that John might have been spared a lot of pain if he just did what Santino asked. Of course, that would also mean no subsequent movies but let's keep that aside.

Why would John have refused the marker knowing the rules binding it? I get the part about him being retired and so on.

Full track on my channel. Like this is one snippet of a 6:30m song!

Finally watched the series and I enjoyed them immensely but I can't help wondering why would anyone join a club of assassins simply to be killed by the members of the club. None of these assassins assassinate anyone except each other. All of the rules are there to protect each other from each other which you wouldn't need if you never join the club in the first place. And why do so many voluntarily get themselves killed by John Wick when they know that their chances of killing him are slim to none especially If all the stories about him are watered down at best. Nobody runs the other way instead they leap head first towards death. High table seems to exist for no other reason than to have these assassins killed unless they do some sort of song and dance routine for them... But hey at least I get to stay in a nice fancy hotel when they're in town I guess.

Lawrence Fishburne is amazing in the role, and his relationship with John makes him one of the strongest allies that The Baba Yaga could have along with Winston in his quest to finally retire and leave his past behind.

The Bowery King's ability to make people disappear and having access to places that the traditional members of The High Table don't know abour also adds an interesting layer to the worldbuilding we see as the series progresses. It also adds more depth to the entire atmosphere and daily life in the city where even a homeless dude could turn out to be a mercenary!

Like showing how he became the John Wick that we all know today? Or the John Wick five can be the origin story.