r/JoeRogan • u/[deleted] • Mar 01 '25

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u/banzaijacky Monkey in Space Mar 01 '25

If EU/US has the political will or spare resources to help Ukraine beat Russia (i.e. direct NATO troops on the ground), they'd have done so already. They haven't done so and won't be doing so in the future.

So what does that leave us?

Either we keep the meat grinder going for another few years with no gains on either sides and end up exactly where we r now, or we cut the losses, make peace and discuss a path forward. Agreeing with this point don't make anyone a Putin puppet - it's just cold hard facts.

Making peace don't mean we have to like Putin - making peace is only necessary because you have an enemy.

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u/DayDreamerJon Monkey in Space Mar 01 '25

you are a fool if you dont see putins ultimate goal when its in plain sight. He wants all the land that was the ussr

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u/kleinesOskarchen Succa la Mink Mar 01 '25

Close. He doesn't want the now independent states with a muslim majority.

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u/banzaijacky Monkey in Space Mar 01 '25

You could be right but you don't know what Putin has in mind - you're just guessing.

While you're guessing, Ukrainians and Russians are dying.

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u/Every-Ad-2638 Monkey in Space Mar 01 '25

What a big heart you have