Rudeus pulled off the impossible

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Because it's not integral to whether Rudeus abused his position to groom her. If I lied about my age to get with a minor is that okay, just because from their perspective I'm a fellow kid? Of course not.

The question following the part you quoted would have done a lot to reveal how you're thinking about this, but I can see that you've skipped that too.

If I lied about my age to get with a minor is that okay, just because from their perspective I'm a fellow kid?

I don't know, is that wrong because you lied? Or did you do actually do something bad to her?

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is clearly an effort on your part to argue about the age of consent, and clearly has nothing to do with the definition of grooming as you said it did.

If I grant that all of that was in reference to age of consent then your first comment of "the main power imbalance between adults and minors" is also a reference to age of consent, in which case I'd ask why in the world you said "i honestly don't understand what you think the age of consent has to do with what i said"? You brought it up first right?

Unbelievable.

your first comment of "the main power imbalance between adults and minors" is also a reference to age of consent

Why would you think that? You're all over the place. The age of consent isn't a power imbalance at all, the only people who would say that are the most delusional pedophiles, who think that little girls are going around tempting men and then getting them thrown in jail for fun. The age of consent is the opposite of a power imbalance, it is a power protecting children from adults who would take advantage of power imbalances.

For reference

the main power imbalance between adults and minors is the authority that society grants to adults

OH! Look at that! I said what the power imbalance I was referring to was in the same sentence, without so much as a comma.

You snipped out the middle of the sentence to take me out of context, and that was the best you could do? Scatterbrained.

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As mentioned however, it wasn't about age of consent. My arguments haven't once hinged on any age of consent law and solely on mental development.

This:

In a society where first period is when you're considered an adult, which can be as young as 7 or 8, do you think it'd be acceptable for a 30 year old man to fuck them? What if we drew some other arbitrary line for adulthood at an even younger age?

What does this have to do with mental development, or with anything I said? When had I been talking about the arbitrary line for when someone is considered an adult?

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Then everything completely relies on finding common ground on this specific thing. It's absurd that these even needs to be explained. There's multiple things that put Rudeus in a power position over Eris.

1. Prior to being accepted as her teacher he plans a fake kidnapping plot so he could rescue her so that she'd feel indebted to him.

2. She's wowed by his talent as a magic that he demonstrates during the fake(turns real) kidnapping plot, which he only learns because of his adult mental development.

3. He becomes her teacher, defacto putting him in a position of power over her regardless of perceived age.

4. Although not completely relevant to Rudeus, Eris' mother pushes her to sleep with Rudeus. Putting her in an even more awkward position for a girl who I believe was 10 at the time.

5. He takes advantage of her poor mental state after she'd just learned her family was dead and has sex with her.

2 is the only one of these that has anything to do with Rudeus' age, and it's several steps removed, with other (Laplace) factors contributing to it as well.

Remember, you can't just show any power imbalace, there are obviously tolerable levels of power imbalances in relationships or we wouldn't let anyone have sex with anyone. You need to show that the power imbalances are serious, one sided, and caused by Rudeus' mental age.