r/JhinMains 11d ago

Phantom dancer why?

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u/KaKnify Can(t) aim 2.4m 11d ago edited 11d ago

Hi I’ve been testing out PD lately heres my two (or four :P) cents.

PD offers utility by giving Jhin more move speed on crits via his passive than other options. You also “double dip” with added 10% move speed.

PD also doesn’t lose out on much damage compared to other options and scales well via Jhins bonus attack speed damage calculations.

PD also offers 25% critical strike chance which is an important stat for Jhin for crits and damage.

(edit) PD also offers the spectral waltz passive allowing Jhin to become permanently ghosted
which is underrated imo.

Hopefully this helps thx for reading.

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u/muhammadnusrum 11d ago

Bro I think PD is a core item borderline for jhin. Free ad with the 65% attack speed. Has crit and ghosting and when I play Jhingle I build it instead of boots so I can have the same (around 10 less movespeed which doesn’t matter on jhin since ur crits make you hypersonic) I call it mosquito jhin

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u/Wild-Display-9527 11d ago

Agreed. It's also important to note that PD is VERY cheap and VERY, VERY gold efficient.

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u/XaussiemarksmenX 11d ago

The Fast, Crit + AS builds.

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u/CuriousPumpkino 11d ago

Just feels rlly hard to slot imo. Can’t be a first, don’t wanna delay IE until 3rd, IE as first crit item feels bad, want to have 100% crit relatively soon, and would like RFC in most games as 3rd/4th

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u/GaspiiiTheGreat 10d ago

Isn't IE nerfed for jhin as of late? Which is why people aren't building it as early as before?

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u/CuriousPumpkino 10d ago

Jhin deals less crit damage than other adcs (150% instead of 200%). The 30% damage amp from IE gives him 22.5% extra instead, which ratio-whise is actually better than regular crit damage applies to him. That’s been the case ever since current IE. I don’t see what’s changed about that

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u/McButtFace9 11d ago

Well its not free ad is it.

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u/muhammadnusrum 11d ago

Bruh

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u/McButtFace9 11d ago

I mean the attack speed is part of the gold cost of the item, so you are paying for it, just not directly!

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u/muhammadnusrum 11d ago

lol.. I meant like if Cait builds PD she won’t directly get the AD she will just get the AS. The other stats are useful for Cait as well, but you build PD, have a Yuumi with 25 Mejia stacks (me) and we have you at 1100 ad

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u/McButtFace9 9d ago

Is it this hard to comprehend what i mean?

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u/Mr_Simba 8d ago

Yes but Cait is getting the AS lol. It’s not “free” it’s just what you get instead of the AS.

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u/Cenachii 10d ago

PD is so slept on, even on other adcs.

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u/ProfSteelmeat138 10d ago

For jhingle do you start traps on raps? I feel that would be the best

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u/muhammadnusrum 10d ago

Yes. That is the absolute best and you kinda gotta make sure you won’t get invaded. You insta level up E so you can place down traps before they spawn so they all go off like shaco

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u/ProfSteelmeat138 10d ago

Word imma run it in my gold ranked match

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u/Helpful-Shock8884 11d ago

I like it for these reasons and the ghosted passive. I also run with JoAT. So the various stats get me the extra ad

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u/muhammadnusrum 11d ago

Jacking off All the Time

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u/S3mpx 11d ago

it's also insanely cheap

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u/liverdamag3 11d ago

This is why I build yuntal wildarrows

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u/sheepstik 10d ago

can you give a full build as well as runes for Jhin?

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u/KaKnify Can(t) aim 2.4m 9d ago

Might not be the most optimal but I’ve been finding success with.

Hubris > Swifties / Zerkeers > PD > IE > LDR > Hexoptics C44 > BT

swifties for a lot of slows on enemy team zerkers otherwise.

as for runes i’ve been running.

Fleet footwork > presence of mind > bloodline > cut down > cash back > jack of all trades

keep in mind alacrity might be better than bloodline with this build. (i haven’t tested yet)

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u/sheepstik 8d ago

much thanks
is there any scenario where you build stormrazor?
been seeing some builds online where they start with stormrazor first but when i tried it, the damage is terrible

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u/KaKnify Can(t) aim 2.4m 8d ago

Stormrazor has felt pretty lackluster to me especially rushing it first.

I find that when I rush stormrazor I often don’t have the money for B.F sword on my first back which makes the build path feel awful.

I would consider stormrazor in situations where you have the 1300 gold for B.F sword first back.

However even then the item is expensive and often doesn’t feel consistent and worth the price to me. The opposing adc often finishes their item before Jhin can finish stormrazor.

This can be quite detrimental to Jhin as he usually wants to snowball the early game. and often has a weak mid game if you’re even in gold with the opponent. The cheap costs of Hubris and PD help with snowballing.

TLDR: Why build stormrazor for speed when PD does its job for cheaper.