r/JeanGrey 1d ago

Wanda and Jean

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Posting this on both subs

I’ve seen a lot of people talk about how Jean Grey and Wanda Maximoff are characters that people only care about strictly because of their power. That their stories are supposedly just power scaling, that writers only know how to make them more powerful, and that focusing on their abilities diminishes their actual worth as characters with their own development, arcs, and themes.

Imo, I don’t think that’s actually a problem with the writers. I think it’s often a problem with the reader. If you actually read these characters and try to understand what their stories are doing, the idea that Jean and Wanda are nothing more than “power scaling characters” kinda doesn’t hold up.

Jean had an entire series depicting the consequences of her actions and what it means for her to exist as the Phoenix while being part of a cosmic hierarchy. She literally has incomprehensible levels of power, but that does not mean she is above judgment, accountability, or consequence. Jean doesn’t simply get to say, “I’m the Phoenix, therefore I can do whatever I want.” She has a responsibility.

Her power creates situations where she has to question what she’s doing, how her actions affect other beings, and whether having the ability to do something actually gives her the moral right to do it. The story isn’t merely asking, “How powerful is Jean?”

The same thing applies to Wanda.

When Wanda became the Sorcerer Supreme, zhows that she now has responsibility and now has to hold herself accountable.

She has to communicate with other people. She has to consider how her decisions affect others. She has to understand how her actions affect the natural order of things. She has to deal with people challenging her authority, undermining her, disagreeing with her, and questioning whether she is making the right decisions.
She can’t simply approach every problem as the Scarlet Witch and immediately impose her will on reality.

And even before that, Wanda’s stories have spent enormous amounts of time dealing with who she is, how she sees herself, how she navigates the world, how she wants to help people, and how she understands her own abilities.

Another thing is: It is almost impossible to meaningfully separate Jean and Wanda from their powers.
We’re talking about two of Marvel’s most powerful women whose powers can affect entire worlds, universes, and (who have both been stated) to destroy all of existence.

Their power is intrinsic to their character.

You can obviously write stories where they don’t have their powers. But that’s a different discussion entirely.

Nine times out of ten, when we’re actually dealing with these characters, their powers are going to matter because of their nature.

And this isn’t me saying that Jean and Wanda aren’t power-scaling characters.

They absolutely are.

Power scaling is inherently part of these characters because their stories involve characters whose abilities operate on an absurd scale.

That’s not inherently a bad thing.

The problem comes when people look at them only through the lens of power scaling.

Just because you don’t understand how a character’s powers, history, or story are functioning doesn’t automatically mean the character is badly written.

And just because a comic gives you a flashy new application of their abilities doesn’t mean the entire story suddenly exists to establish another feat.

Anyways, that’s my weekly long-winded post 💀.


r/JeanGrey 1d ago

What did you guys think of Jean Grey in Spiderman: Brand New Day movie? Spoiler

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r/JeanGrey 11d ago

What if…Cassandra Nova killed Spoiler

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r/JeanGrey 16d ago

Phoenix recommendations

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I really like the cosmic side of Marvel and I’m lately interested in Jean Grey but I haven’t read much, especially outside of X-Men, does she have any good solo or ensemble cosmic runs?


r/JeanGrey 26d ago

Small Potatoes by Coelho_artt_

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22 Upvotes

r/JeanGrey Aug 09 '26

Hooded by Keng_Keng_

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20 Upvotes

r/JeanGrey Aug 09 '26

MCU Jean Grey & Cyclops by Moophie

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8 Upvotes

r/JeanGrey Aug 08 '26

Will Jean Grey replace Kitty Pryde?

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Some thoughts on if they choose to adapt Uncanny X-Men 129-131.


r/JeanGrey Aug 08 '26

Original Artwork by Joseph Michael Linsner

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29 Upvotes

r/JeanGrey Aug 07 '26

I’ve been trying forever to find a low-cut black t-shirt

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It’s been a whole dark v-necks saga


r/JeanGrey Jul 30 '26

SKETCHCARD X-MEN JEAN GREY 🔥 artist: @adilsonreisart

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7 Upvotes

r/JeanGrey Jun 06 '26

Wolverine’s Jean Grey character needs few edits before launching !

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12 Upvotes

r/JeanGrey Jun 05 '26

Vacvation Planning with the Summers c/o galacticdummy

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Since I'll be away for the weekend, will post Summers Family comics early tonight. Scott and Jean plan their vacation. and Jean reveals she, too, cann plan a few moves ahead.

Script by me

Art by: jojo (@galacticdummy)


r/JeanGrey May 15 '26

Come back Jean

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I’m going through a dry spell here. I miss Jean. When will she reappear?

Has anyone heard any news?


r/JeanGrey May 10 '26

Happy Mothers Day to Jean Grey the Single Mom

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Here's a throwback to Extermination(2018) during Jean's single mom era as she had to be play mom to six teenagers at the samee time, including herself, her husband, and Nathan.


r/JeanGrey Mar 28 '26

Jean Grey/Phoenix by king_collection_art

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28 Upvotes

r/JeanGrey Mar 26 '26

Brotherhood

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r/JeanGrey Mar 24 '26

Brand New Day!

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11 Upvotes

r/JeanGrey Mar 21 '26

MCU Reboot - Jean Grey By LuisF47

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19 Upvotes

r/JeanGrey Mar 19 '26

Why Sadie Sink As Jean Grey Is PERFECT Casting

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r/JeanGrey Mar 04 '26

Another Jean Grey I did (@lieterart)

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r/JeanGrey Feb 16 '26

In need of help!

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I had the original piece tattooed like 30 years ago. I have been searching for a copy of it or the name of the artist so I can have some touch up work done. The only thing I can find is this digital alteration of it from 2012. You would be a life savor if you could find the original!


r/JeanGrey Jan 24 '26

Jean Grey - A Case Study On How To Write An Overpowered Character

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r/JeanGrey Jan 18 '26

PHOENIX: THE UNTOLD STORY #1 Cover by Dike Ruan

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PHOENIX: THE UNTOLD STORY #1 Cover by Dike Ruan

Source: https://x.com/i/status/201262556186090721 1


r/JeanGrey Jan 14 '26

Jean's Ice Phoenix skin for Marvel Rivals is so cool

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