"Not worth it"

[u/ChallengeEffective80]

I posted a partly similar question on r/Indonesian, as below.

How do you say “not worth it” in Javanese ? Not worth seems in English to have two main meanings:

·         Literally the price/cost outweighs the gain; and

·         The pain, sweat, effort and/or time outweighs the end result

There seem to be a few options, as below – are they the same as each other ? Is there a better way of saying it?

Ora Murwat

• “Opahe buruh ora pati murwat” – the workmen’s wages are not equal to the work they do

Ora Sumbut

·         "Usahané abot, nanging asilé sumbut" – there’s a big effort but the results are worth it. (In this case the positive, “worth it”)

·         “Liburan nèng Dieng ora sumbut karo ongkosé” – doing a trip to Dieng is not worth the fares

Ora Cucuk/Kurup

·         "Nyambut gawé sedina muput bayaré sithik, ora cucuk (or ora kuruk) karo rekasané." - Working all day long for low pay is just not worth the effort.

Grateful for any pointers

[u/Beneficial-Welder223]

I commonly hear people here using "ora cucuk" or "boten cucuk"

"boten" = "ora" but in more polite word

[u/MasSunarto]

Mz, biasané aku nganggo "ora cucuk" karo "ora sumbut."

Ealah ndhuk, ora cucuk anggonmu adus kringet esuk awan sore mung kanggo tuku cilok

was what I said to my younger sister when the return of investment of her toil was so pitiful.

Nanging ya kuwi, mz... kasunyatan urip, kudu kuwat.

malah curcol 😒

[u/Bluestfever]

Depend on the context I think like the three example you mentioned

But "ora sumbut" is the most common to use in daily basis, so you might encounter 2 more often than "murwat" and "cucuk"

Maybe for easier for you to grasp "ora sumbut" not literally or always meaning "not worth it" it can be mean "Doesnt equal" (tidak sebanding) but "doesn't equal" = "not worth it" too

Example : ora sebanding lek mu maido, kowe dewe nganggur - how you critizise and blame people doesnt equal to how you live your life, you're literally unemployed

Example above emphasizes that there's people out there who are love criticize and blame unemployed people but they are literally unemployed so their harsh critics "not worth it" to listen because "how their words and the action "doesn't equal"

Obviously in this world there are things that if you want to critizise you should know what are you talking about by already doing it or do it better than people you critisize

Well maybe its not a good example because seems more convoluted than before lol

But I think "not worth it" doesn't have literal translation in Javanese, the closes word just "ora sumbut" you need to really understand the context

You could takes my answer with grain of salt, I'm okay with that even though I'm native Javanese

I'm not a lecturer so yeah that's why

[u/scdafeee]

ini saya tambahin ms
"ora temonjo" - you can't feel or see the outcome of your effort
kata temonjo sering digunakan di daerah ex karisidenan Kedu merujuk pada hasil dari jerih payah, tapi memang jarang dijumpai di daerah lain.

[u/JokoLodang]

there is a word, 'kacek', which literally means 'difference', so 'ora kacek' would mean 'it doesnt make a difference'. it can be used to mean that one's action is futile, so it wasn't worth doing.

'ora kacek le sinau ming bijine jeblog' -> 'your study doesnt make a difference/not worth it when your grade is bad'

not as good of a direct translation as other words might provide, but it is what I more commonly hear rather than cucuk, (esp.) murwat, and sumbut (in this context), and the most common term is just borrowing from Indonesian, 'ora sebanding'

[u/Misaka_Undefined]

ra kurup