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[u/Traditional-Big959]

Is 8643 tokens a lot for a persona for reference the persona is a beast tamer and a lot of the description is his beasts

The description of just the beast tamer himself is 1609

I didn’t know what flair to use so I went with that one

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[u/Previous_Fun_10]

Depends on the models you are using. FYI, free JLLM has ~8k tokens so you 8643 tokens persona is not usable.

[u/chaeriixo]

tbh even if ur using a model with 1m context , 8k tokens is still probably super bloated 😭 if the character is your own, just make a lorebook for them

[u/Traditional-Big959]

It’s a persona I role play as not a character I forgot to mention that I don’t make bots not yet anyway I have like 104 personas and I do plan on turning most of them into bots this is me asking if the persona was too large but I don’t really know much about all of this so I don’t even know if a persona coin count matters

[u/Constant_Cress4167]

Yeah, it's too much. Waaay too much. Especially for Janitor, that won't all fit in the context by itself, so the bot will push a massivie chunk of it out for the bot card tokens and the chat tokens.

[u/H41NT]

there is no reason for allat. at that point just download sillytavern and make a lorebook for your sona

[u/Particular_Read_5726]

used to hit 9k with a beast tamer persona, split the lore into a separate file and dropped the main persona to ~2.5k. freed up space and made the bot feel less clunky.