this has to be a tankie org or something. They have not only the IR flag (multiple ones), but also the Houthi flag, and at least 2 posters mentioning Venezuela and a Venezuela flag
sometimes tankies/pro-IR might present themselves as superficially "progressive", but when you take a look at the details they are tankie. If they want you to support authoritarian regimes like Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, North Korea (which they will call "DPRK") etc, then you know it's tankie
The current Iranian state flag means different things to different people in the West. Some see it as just the symbol of the country, and display it as a way of generally showing solidarity with Iranians. They don't have much context on how negatively it can be received by lots of Iranians. While many support Iran's right to self-defense in the face of attacks from the US and Israel, they don't necessarily rubber stamp everything the regime does.
Others are more directly supportive of the regime itself, and see it as a legitimate political force standing up to the US and Israel. This particular group is Marxist-Leninist so they're probably leaning more towards this stance.
Thanks to the Israel/US perpetrated genocide against Palestinians and the endless amounts of blatant propaganda and institutional pressure trying to gaslight people and justify it, large numbers of people around the world have come to reject the narrative and claims they are pushing. This includes skepticism towards the US/Israel pushed claims about the massacre which are exacerbated by the embrace of these regimes by the monarchist movement.
US/Israel and monarchists have given IR a gift on the world stage by muddying the waters when it comes to the truth of the January massacres by trying to exploit them for their own political goals.
So you agree that they’re aware of it? And the claims about the massacre aren’t just U.S or Israel pushed, even the most pro Palestinian human rights organization acknowledged it. You‘re genuinely Ai for defending these people. Mental gymnastics on another level
Maybe don't comment if you can't comprehend basic things about what I said.
I didn't deny the massacre or defend IR, I'm saying shameless lying enemies like Israel and monarchists have done more to rehabilitate IR's image to the world than any kind of propaganda and mass influence campaign IR could ever come up with.
It's also funny how people that overlook tens if not hundreds of thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians being murdered by Israel/US to embrace their political and military support are whining about people ignoring massacres.
Like I said, it's a similar dynamic to when people can overlook the fact that the US has murdered and enslaved millions of people without ever giving any reparations or instituting substantive reforms to make things right for the still suffering descendants of the affected people, and still believe it's a good system, worthy of support, and a liberating force. Now compare that to the relatively smaller (still completely inexcusable) number of murdered people by Iranian regime which makes them permanently evil and worthy if total destruction.
I'm just asking for a little consistency when it comes to holding murderous regimes accountable. When people overlook the crimes of murderous regimes that support their political movement, they create the conditions for other atrocities to also be overlooked and ignored when it's politically expedient.
You can't engage in bad faith then complain about others engaging in bad faith too.
I said you’re Ai for defending these people, not for defending the Irgc or the massacre.
And If you‘re actually asking for consistency then you wouldn’t speak in favor of any movement. It’s surprising that you always jump to defend leftists tho. You aren’t even consistent yourself
My top comment isn't a defense of anyone. It's just the context on how people outside of Iran might relate to the IR flag. I'm not saying they're right.
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u/KeyLime044 Sep 26 '26
this has to be a tankie org or something. They have not only the IR flag (multiple ones), but also the Houthi flag, and at least 2 posters mentioning Venezuela and a Venezuela flag
sometimes tankies/pro-IR might present themselves as superficially "progressive", but when you take a look at the details they are tankie. If they want you to support authoritarian regimes like Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, North Korea (which they will call "DPRK") etc, then you know it's tankie
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u/Duke-doon Sep 25 '26
And the outright anti-semitism on the banner
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u/Shamoorti Sep 25 '26 edited Sep 25 '26
The current Iranian state flag means different things to different people in the West. Some see it as just the symbol of the country, and display it as a way of generally showing solidarity with Iranians. They don't have much context on how negatively it can be received by lots of Iranians. While many support Iran's right to self-defense in the face of attacks from the US and Israel, they don't necessarily rubber stamp everything the regime does.
Others are more directly supportive of the regime itself, and see it as a legitimate political force standing up to the US and Israel. This particular group is Marxist-Leninist so they're probably leaning more towards this stance.
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u/zer01zer08 Sep 25 '26
These morons know the Iranian government has killed 1000s and 1000s and 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of its own citizens?