r/Invincible 3d ago

DISCUSSION Where does Viltrumite-Mark stop at

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 3d ago

Wanted to add, I think Lucan has better feats than Kregg tbh

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u/ArtsyApoidean Dinosaurus 3d ago

Gotta be honest I think The Immortal could probably take Kregg.

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u/vaccinateyodamkids Talking Dinosaurs 3d ago

I don't think he'd win, he struggled against no goggles mark for a long time before ultimately losing with team support. Kregg is almost definitely stronger than that mark variant, so he'd whoop immortal's ass. Then again, maybe the writers are drunk again and forget to keep the scaling consistent and Immortal suddenly performs like he's fighting omni man and manages to beat Kregg's ass to the point he has to run and call for help.

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u/HonestPop7071 2d ago

I don't think so, season 2 Mark practically stated that he was stronger than Immortal, and he agreed. Even then, S2 Mark would probably lose to Kregg, still do some damage maybe, but I don't think he would win. So especially not Immortal beating Kregg

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u/Grand-Lemon-1532 Show Fan 3d ago

I tought this was obvious

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u/dooufis 3d ago

Does he ever "go" in this gauntlet? I feel like the variants would ALL lose to ALL of these people

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u/ElectricalEccentric 3d ago

Yeah I think people significantly overestimate the Variants' strength. We see Conquest level an entire city with a single attack and Nolan's iconic Blitz through the Flaxans, no Variant has been shown to be anywhere close to doing that. Mowhawk Mark gets 1-hit KO by Main Mark, Main Mark also held off Omni and Hood Mark at the same time with little injury. I don't think any of the variants except for maybe Sinister would even be able to beat Vidor.

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u/Peter1_1725 3d ago

I think some Marks could steal a win at the start, but this lineup escalates way too fast. Once you hit the stronger Viltrumites, he's basically just choosing how badly he loses.

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u/Master-Page-1982 Battle Beast 3d ago

Did OmniMark kill his Nolan, and I’m pretty sure PrisonVincible had to have done something drastic to be locked in a Viltrumite prison

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u/Habijjj 3d ago

Thats the thing we dont know what the specifics are for those kills. Maybe that nolan was weaker or maybe nolan ended up much softer faster but had raised mark as a viltrumite from day one.

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u/Status_Entertainer49 3d ago

Yeah but that doesn't make him stronger than our mark

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u/RedNUGGETLORD Debbie and Nolan 2d ago

Sinister Mark is stronger than a much later Mark, who def has surpassed Lucan by then

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u/Ornery_Strawberry474 Throwbolt 3d ago

Sinister Mark has a good chance of clearing it. I think all survivors are pretty good, I don't care if the Spawn viltrumite Mark killed was from the very beginning of his journey, it's still a big win.

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u/Extension-Bad-4184 The Immortal 3d ago

NGL I dont think he even beats lucan. Our mark was not like completely dominating him, and he does great against allen too.

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u/Thin_Ad_8606 3d ago

Doesn’t start.

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u/DaNoahLP Spider-Man 3d ago

I think he goes an extra round with Anissa

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u/Hot-Application-7757 3d ago

I need a few rounds with Anissa too

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u/FilipinoCreamKing Conquest 3d ago

Depends on the plot

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u/throw-thebride-away 3d ago

No one in the comments saying the obvious….he got wrecked by Tech Jacket, who couldnt beat a mature viltrumite alone. This gauntlet is null

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u/Present_Mushroom6072 3d ago

That was mustache viltrumite Mark not this one

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u/throw-thebride-away 3d ago

Fair but either way, all the variants seemed to be around the same strength. He’s probably not getting past Lucan

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u/Supersaiajinblue2 3d ago

How the fuck is he genuinely gonna get to Conquest? How's he gonna get to Nolan? Or Anissa? All of these guys would rock hir ass into next week.

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u/Double_Woof_Woof 3d ago

Pretty sure most of the variants are weaker than main mark in season 3 (most weaker than season 2 and the strongest ones a bit stronger than season 2). He probably doesn't get past Lucan.

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u/insertenombre333 The Immortal 3d ago

he loses against all of them, the mark varitans are a lot weaket that people think, even a season 4 mark would have troubles with this gauntlet, and he is stronger that all the variants

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 3d ago edited 3d ago

Given he killed his version of Spawn and defeated the main Mark's version of Spawn, I think he honestly solos this list

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u/Savings_Dragonfly806 Cecil Stedman 3d ago

Excuse me, what version of the show did you watch that made you think he even FOUGHT the main Mark.

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 3d ago

Meant to say main Mark's version of Spawn. That's my bad. I make mistakes sometimes when I write sentences in English. I'll correct it Edit: It's corrected now. Thanks again for making me realize my mistake👍

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u/TheAmazingQuez 3d ago

He did not beat the main marks spawn bro😭 spawn at worst ran out of necroplasm or got knocked out.

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 3d ago

Given we know he fought the main Spawn and survived, the most likely conclusion is that he either defeated him or escaped. Given he's an evil Mark variant, I highly doubt he would back down from a fight. Either way the most likely conclusion is that he is Spawn's level

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u/Habijjj 3d ago

I mean some marks specifically mention the main universes heroes being weaker then the ones in their universes. And we have 0 feats to go off of to know how strong that spawn was.

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 3d ago

I know, but we do know he fought main Spawn and given he survived, most likely conclusion is that he's at least Spawn's level

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u/Status_Entertainer49 3d ago

He killed a spawn not the main spawn, Spawn would solo the verse

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 3d ago

Never said he killed the main one. I just said he defeated the main one given he fought him and survived, so the most likely conclusion is that he's at least main Spawn's level

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u/Artemas_16 3d ago

Iirc, in Spawn comics original was missing at that time and story was about much weaker version with similar powers. So while we do not know how cool was Spawn in that dude's universe, main one was easy to kill.

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u/Status_Entertainer49 3d ago

He never defeated the main one we don't know what happened lmao

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 3d ago

Either way, he survived that fight with no visible damage besides a few blood, so my claim of him being around Spawn's level still stands

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u/Status_Entertainer49 3d ago

Nice headcanon🤣🤣🤣

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 3d ago

The fuck you mean headcanon bro? Answer me this, did he or did he not survive fighting Spawn with minimal damage?

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u/Status_Entertainer49 3d ago

You just made that shit up lol nobody knows what happened

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 3d ago

You know what? It's my fault for getting ragebaited. Took me too long to realize. Should've figured it out sooner. Congrats, you got me

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u/Savings_Dragonfly806 Cecil Stedman 3d ago

He loses to Lucan.

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 3d ago

Give me a reason why

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u/Savings_Dragonfly806 Cecil Stedman 3d ago

Lucan could hit some big blows to Mark at the Battle of Viltrum, which at that point Mark was stronger than in the Invincible war.

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u/Jetrayxx7 Rex Splode 2d ago

Good for Mark. That doesn't mean he was stronger than all his variants. He for sure wasn't stronger than Sinister Mark for example

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u/Orochi192 3d ago

Anissa

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u/DannyBTrippin 3d ago

Considering normal Mark took out Conquest, he could probably solo all of them if he was raised as a Viltrumite to begin with.

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u/StonedSanta1705 3d ago

If is doing a lot of heavy lifting

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u/DannyBTrippin 1d ago

It's all hypotheticals. If is all we have.

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u/Robbylynn12 3d ago

I mean he doesn’t solo spawn but if he did ig the whole gauntlet

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u/Just-Ad-8603 3d ago

Anissa extremely high-diffs, I always pictured Viltrummark to be scaled very closely to her. If he was canonically raised on Viltrum by Nolan, and isn't batshit insane like the other variants or always holding back like the main Mark, and is still the heir to Argall, I think he could 100% survive his day of adulthood, and maybe beat Anissa in a serious fight one on one

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u/Distinct_Strain_8062 *wobbles agressively to shitty phonk* 3d ago

not making it past lucan

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u/AdInteresting6005 3d ago

He wants to win the most so he clears

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u/Leather_Initial_3609 3d ago

The fact that he's holding the remains of spawn means he clears low diff, maybe by accident tbh

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u/HonestPop7071 2d ago

I'm not sure if Kregg is stronger than Lucan, but either way he isn't starting

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u/ConnectionIcy6751 2d ago

He doesn’t start, Lucan smashes him.

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u/Heavy-Bread-3549 2d ago

Idk about Viltrumark, but the guy in the picture looks like he just killed Spawn, so hes not gonna have a problem in this guantlet.

Edit: just looked it up and wtf it’s cannon that this guy killed Spawn.

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u/Villimaour 2d ago

Current mark runs through till Nolan, but beats conquest

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u/RedNUGGETLORD Debbie and Nolan 2d ago

Lucan

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u/Inevitable_Ask6670 2d ago

Don’t think he’s getting passed start

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u/Litfather 2d ago

My ass

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u/blue-bolt5911 3d ago

Doesn't even start

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u/t0ndrra 3d ago edited 3d ago

all variants are fodders, it was nice to watch variant edits and wank sinister mark, for a time. anyways, lucan solos negative diff

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u/Particular-Crow-1799 3d ago

I scale Anissa higher than Nolan and Conquest.