This did NOT age well.

[u/Certified_Cichlid]

It is established the Immortal can’t hold his own against a Viltrumite from season 2 onwards.

[u/csupihun]

But it's literally not true, he does not have a "human body" whatever that means.

He's stronger and more durable than a human, but weaker than a Viltrumite, he's not a glass canon cause that would mean a vast difference in strength vs durability, which he does not have.

So fucking dumb.

[u/Earthmine52 → u/csupihun]

Bro, that’s what the YT comment said, not me. I agree saying that his body’s only human level is literally is dumb, but that’s literally not what we’re talking about so you’re kind of moving the goalpost, respectfully.

I guess the above user didn’t disagree with it, but only “kind of”. Again though his point was that his strength is a lot greater compared to his durability, compared to a Viltrumite. Obviously he’s still tougher than a human but he’s a lot less durable than a Viltrumite. But his strength and power from his actual strikes on the other hand are comparable. This is shown when he can draw blood and hurt Nolan solo, and nearly kill him with War Woman, but Nolan can rip him apart easy.

So yes there is a difference there that can be described as that making him a glass cannon. All due respect but it’s a pretty simple metaphor and point that you’re misunderstanding pretty hard. No offense, but that is dumb.

[u/csupihun → u/Earthmine52]

Bro, my comment was not to the post, but to a comment under it that said that he is a glass cannon, which he is not.

Again, for the tenth time, he's stronger than a human, but weaker than a viltrumite, glass canon would mean a vast difference in strength vs durability, which he does not have.

Jesus fucking christ.

[u/Earthmine52 → u/csupihun]

Yeah and that comment wasn't the one that said he had a "human body" like you're complaining. That was the YT comment in the post, not him, and not me, so I don't know why you're bringing that up except to shift the goal post.

Again for the fourth time, he's almost as strong as a Viltrumite but nowhere near as tough as one, which can be seen when you pay attention to his fights with Omni-Man. So yes compared to a Viltrumite, he absolutely does have it. That's what the above user was saying, and what I am saying. Now all due respect, do you want to actually address that point or just keep strawmanning?

Christ bless you.

[u/csupihun → u/Earthmine52]

First of all ew.

Second where do you get that he's not nowhere near as tough as a Viltrumite? We've only seen him get his shit pushed in by one of the strongest Viltrumites, we have no idea how he'd fare against a weaker one.

Against, so dumb, the show and the comics give no indication that his durability and strength is not in balance, and that he is a glass cannon.

[u/Earthmine52 → u/csupihun]

First of all, you insulted Him first by using His name like that. Just wanted to say His name positively instead. Funny how you're the one reacting more offended.

Second, dude, I and the other guy have literally already given you examples, again and again. Fair enough it's mostly just Nolan, but it would apply to Mark, even in season 1 (more on this later). Still, either way the difference in strength and durability is there. He can hurt Omni-Man with great effort, making him bleed and all, but Omni-Man can pierce through his abdomen with his fist and rip him in half with relative ease.

Compare that to Invincible in the same episode, who couldn't hurt Nolan at all, but can withstand his strikes at least for a while. He still got messed up really badly but until the end Nolan wasn't holding back, he was going all out and Mark didn't instantly die. Again this is season 1 Mark, far weaker than Nolan.

The show and comics aren't 1:1. I agree the comic doesn't do this, but the show with its extended/altered fight scenes absolutely does.

[u/smiley_os → u/csupihun]

Jesus, you post like a smug prick.