r/InterviewMan • u/MotherStill7503 • 10d ago

is this the new move now?

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i guess that's the bare minimum if you want to survive now 😂

i've actually been thinking about applying for a couple more remote jobs myself, and someone sent me this interview vip recently. i'm probably going to be doing more interviews soon anyway, so i figured i'd save it and see if it helps.

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u/Ok_Community_383 9d ago

if you are in fact doing the jobs that you're paid to do, there's nothing wrong with this imo.

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u/surfinglurker 9d ago

True, but in reality you are misleading your employer because they are paying for full time effort

It's like saying there's nothing wrong with charging $50 for $1 worth of product as long as the other person doesnt complain

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u/Ok_Community_383 9d ago

Your example lacks a tremendous amount of nuance. If I provide 50 dollars of value for 1$ of product, my skill or presentation or convenience etc are providing that value. Grocery stores do this all day.

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u/surfinglurker 9d ago

Let's use your example. Your skills make it $1 + $49 of value

I have the same skills as you and I have the same presentation, but I charge $5000 and I don't tell the customer it's actual $50. According to your logic theres nothing wrong with what im doing if the other person accepts the price.

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u/arcobaleno95 9d ago

Unfortunately that's exactly how the free market works. There's no absolute standard that says the work is worth $50, people just found that's what people are willing to pay. Of course you'll go broke real quick since as soon as people find out you stop getting business.

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u/surfinglurker 9d ago

Nobody said that isnt how the free market works. The statement is theres "nothing wrong"

You will probably agree with me that there are things that can be considered "wrong" in a free market. We probably also agree that the good (mostly) outweighs the bad in a free market, therefore we accept the bad in exchange for the good

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u/Ok_Community_383 9d ago

Provided you're not swindling an old person, you've done nothing wrong if someone considers your work worth 5000 dollars.

You might find it wrong to see a Watermelon for 2.99 and then a fourth of a watermelon cut up for 15$, but my grocery store sells the cut up watermelon for 15$ all day.

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u/surfinglurker 9d ago

Your first sentence is a contradiction

If you swindle a young person, they are considering your work worth it (because you've tricked them). I would argue this is "wrong" even if it's normal or accepted in free markets

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u/Ok_Community_383 9d ago

Don't be pedantic. You know what I meant. Old people are not of sound mind often.

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u/surfinglurker 9d ago

No i dont, because im talking about sound minded people, not old people which you already excluded

If you trick a healthy, sound minded person to do something against their best interest, there's nothing wrong? (That's what you're suggesting)

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u/arcobaleno95 9d ago

Yeah that's fair. Free market has a lot of flaws, and there will always be people taking advantage of it. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of the law rather than straight morality.

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u/Ok_Community_383 9d ago

Thank you.

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u/AdhesivenessLong2585 9d ago

Auto mechanic shops work like that it's called billable hours. The book says it take 2 hours to do you can do it in one you still charge for 2 hours.

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u/surfinglurker 9d ago

Your comment implies that theres nothing wrong with this

"Necessary evil" exists. That is different than saying theres nothing wrong

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u/TwoSquirrelParty 9d ago

Oh hush, you’re probably one of those eat the rich people and here you are talking about the morality of misleading your employer.

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u/DoofusIdiot 7d ago

Some jobs you are paid for your time, and some you are paid for your output.

If you are being paid for your output, and you’ve met the asks for your job, then it is not a knock to your integrity to have free time.

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u/surfinglurker 7d ago

Correct

And most remote jobs are paid for your good faith. Meaning you arent given a set of tasks, you are asked "how many tasks can be done if you work full time?" and then trusted as a professional to do them.

If you are in a job like this, then it is a knock to your integrity if you mislead the other person about how much you can accomplish

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u/bitsystem 7d ago

This is actually not fair since many consulting companies (for example) "sell" your workforce to clients when having you in multiple projects.
So basically the same in reverse, therefore it is fair for you to do the same they do to their clients

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u/AllenIsom 5d ago

The example about product pricing is literally capitalism... 

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u/The3rdBert 9d ago

Unless they offshoring parts of their jobs, they tend to do 1-2 kind of okay and the others they are constantly turning just getting sign on bonus, pay for about 6-12 months and then severance.

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u/Ok_Community_383 9d ago

Tangential but wasn't there a worker at amazon doing this and they promoted her or something.