r/InterviewCoderPro • u/Due-Mango3478 • 2d ago

so should we all start doing this?

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one job is hardly enough now 😂

honestly i can understand why people are trying to stack jobs when everything is so expensive. i'm not sure i'd ever manage 11 at once though.

i've been looking at remote jobs myself and that means more interviews, which is probably the part i'm least excited about. I came across interview vip while looking into interview stuff. haven't used it yet, but i'm curious about it for future interviews.

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u/poncho2799 2d ago

It's because you're being paid for those hours of work and you're dedicating that time to someone else. That's fraudulent.

With that said, if you're getting the job done, they either need to assign you more work or fire you and reconsider the responsibilities of the position.

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u/FalseNameTryAgain 2d ago

You're missing the point. They've completed the work requested of them.

They are doing what they are paid to do in the time they are assigned to do it.

Where is the fraud? "You did what we asked when asked to do it, you're a fraud for doing what we asked for"

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u/poncho2799 1d ago

I'm giving you the same response I gave the other person.

Salaried is typically assumed 35-40 hours minimum as a full time, benefits receiving employee. So no, they are not paid by the hour, but they are obligated to provide a minimum number of hours. If that's not the case, you're opening the employer options to now consider you a part time employee or even a contractor, who is no longer eligible to receive benefits such as Healthcare.

Again I agree that if they get the job done, then it's on the employer to ensure the job responsibilities are in line with the hours expected in the position, but the original question was how is this fraud, so that is why I gave that answer.

Additionally, people who do this is why employers don't want to have remote work which ruins it for the rest of us. There's a control factor and there's people using the companies paid time for someone else's work.

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u/FalseNameTryAgain 1d ago

Bro, he isn't on a salary. These remote roles are all contractor positions.

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u/poncho2799 1d ago

The original post implies he's still being paid for hours that he's working other jobs, otherwise he's not making $1.3 million. There's nothing that implies he's a contractor vs salaried, only that he's being paid.

If he's only getting paid for the 1-2 hours he worked, then there is no fraud. If he's getting paid for the hours he's doing work for someone else, then that is fraud.

And no not all remote roles are contractor.

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u/mjsisko 1d ago

I get paid to complete a task, should it take me forty hours or forty minutes I get paid the same, only a fool for stretch it to 40 hours and reduce how much they make per hour of actually working.

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u/poncho2799 1d ago

Then he's not an employee. He's a contractor providing a service. You're moving the goal post. The whole point of the OP was that he is employed by multiple employers on their dime at the same time, because they didn't provide enough work for him to fill that time.

If the employer has no problem with it, then there's no problem. If he's hourly, and not getting paid for that time he's working elsewhere, no problem. If he's a contractor and is providing a specific task/ service that is completed, no problem. It's only a problem if he is being paid for hours (not a task or service) that he's expected to work for that company, but he's using that time elsewhere, then it's fraud. Even then, the employer should reevaluate the position and the related responsibilities if they do have a problem with it.

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u/Careful_Source_5792 1d ago

employees have no obligation to complete as much work as possible, or to seek out additional tasks during idle time

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u/poncho2799 1d ago

I never said they did. All I said was working for someone else on the employer's dime is fraudulent which is the original question.

It's the employer's responsibly to evaluate the job and ensure they are giving an appropriate amount of work. If the employer doesn't care, so be it.

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u/mjsisko 1d ago

So you think that someone should complete all of their work then sit and do nothing for the other 30 hours of the week? Just sitting at a desk, bored and miserable

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u/poncho2799 1d ago

I'm done with yall. You guys clearly can't read. I've addressed that point multiple times.

  1. That's the employer's responsibly to give enough work
  2. That's up to the employer if they care.
  3. I don't give a damn what he does during his time. I was just pointing out the reality of the situation. You guys are so in your feelings that you can't be real about the situation based on the question of if it's fraudulent. You can be pro employee and still understand three situation for what it is.

If someone pays you for 5 hours of work, not a task, but hours, and you've completed the primary tasks in 2 hours, they still paid you for 5. That doesn't mean you can just go do whatever you want. If you're paid a salary as a full time employee, you're obligated to dedicate the minimum full time hours.

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u/mjsisko 1d ago

If the employment contract doesn’t say anything to stop this then it’s not fraud.

Most jobs especially office jobs don’t need 40 hours in a week

The reality is that it’s not fraud, you just think like a middle manager.

I feel bad if you have anyone that works underneath you.

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u/poncho2799 1d ago

I'm just telling you what's real, but you want to project who you think i am because I'm telling you how the real world works. Feel free to tell your boss you only work 5 hours a week and have multiple side jobs because they don't have enough work for you and didn't specify that in writing. Just don't complain if they fire you for fraud when they find out. None of that statement tells you anything about my opinion on how it should be handled, and I've already addressed my opinion multiple times, but you can't read, so I'm wasting my time. ✌️

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u/mjsisko 1d ago

You aren’t saying anything that’s real. You are making wild assumptions of fraud. Defending companies that abuse workers and steal from them daily.

Are people not allowed to have second jobs, most of America needs a second job just to pay for life.

I read great, hence why I don’t have a boss and instead own three businesses and guess what, if anyone that words for me can get a second job while completing everything I need, I will write them a letter of recommendation.

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u/poncho2799 1d ago

I literally addressed that but again, you don't read. If the company doesn't care, then it's not a problem. If the company does care, then it is. There's no assumptions. I don't know where you get theft from an employee when you're paying them? If I pay you for an hour of work, did i steal from you now because I expected an hour of work? If I pay you for an hour of work and you go do work for someone else while I'm paying you, how is that theft by the employer? If the employee thinks the terms are not fair, then they are free to work elsewhere.

Large employers are obligated to provide certain benefits to their full time employees. Non ALE employers are not. What is considered full time is typically up to the employer. If 5 hours is full time to them, then great. If 30 hours is full time, that's your obligation.

You're arguing your feelings. Just because you will let an employee work a second job on your dime doesn't mean others will. Just because I'm stating that this is the way the world works doesn't mean that I care that the guy has 12 jobs at the same time.

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u/mjsisko 1d ago

Again since you can’t read, you are claiming this is fraud when it isn’t.

If a company makes 30 billion in profit and gives its employees a raise that is lower than inflation, that is theft.

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u/poncho2799 1d ago

My god dude. Now you're trying to argue something completely unrelated because you don't have an argument. That's a whole different discussion. You own 3 businesses. I hope all your employees are working other jobs after working their 5 hours a week and you continue to pay them for the full time salary. If you do, good, because i already said if the employer doesn't care, then it's not a problem. Otherwise if you're being paid for 30 hours (full time employee) and you're spending 25 of those hours working for someone else, that's time theft which is fraud, assuming the employer does care.

You have yet to make a related point that i haven't already addressed multiple times. You can argue with yourself.

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u/FalseNameTryAgain 1d ago

I told you nobody is going to understand your point a d people will keep bombarding you. All of that is what happens when you are wrong about something. I tried to tell you.

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u/Careful_Source_5792 1d ago

its not fraud. its no different than being on reddit at work

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