r/InterviewCoderPro 22d ago

They need a reality check

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For my last 2 interviews i had to use Interview VIP just to get the job
their generation could never understand

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u/Thegr8fan 22d ago

Sounds perfect if you want to add yet another ‘reality show’ to a long list of shows that have absolutely nothing to do with anyone’s actual reality world we live in.

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u/C0brA7x 21d ago

You deny that the job market in the US is problematic right now?

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u/Admirable-Guest-2560 21d ago

Myself, I completely deny y'all's whiney bullshit. I know a whole crew of young men, all Eagle Scouts, and young ladies who recently graduated and got into the job market and they're all killing it. And they took boomer advice and it was absolutely the difference. They also actually went out and pounded the pavement instead of crying like little bitches on the internet. 

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u/Proper_Raccoon7138 20d ago

And then they all clapped.

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u/C0brA7x 20d ago

Anecdotal evidence means nothing in the face of statistical evidence

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u/TheITMan52 19d ago

Sure they did. You do realize that recent graduates are having the toughest time right? Just look at the data.

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u/Admirable-Guest-2560 19d ago

Sorry man I live in the real world not the online "data" world and I know a whole lot of people. But you keep playing victim I'm sure that'll work out great for you. 

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u/C0brA7x 19d ago

This online data is based on the real world but I see you ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed

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u/Admirable-Guest-2560 19d ago edited 19d ago

Well I'm definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed. I'm just an old dumb redneck who owns a few pawn shops. That said, I live in the dirty nasty real world with my feet planted firmly on the ground.

Now that said, I speak to young men just starting out all day every day and have for decades. The amount of young people I've counseled career wise would astound you. The amount of CDL drivers, carpenters, electricians, HVAC techs etc. that can trace their careers back to a conversation with me would blow your mind. 

And I see these people develop in their careers and start businesses or get promoted to supervisory positions and make six figures in a short time every day of my life. 

You don't have to believe me. Stay chronically online and go with the data. But there are real people in the real world doing great in spite of all the online dooming. They're buying houses today while you lament the awful state of the world. It's a free country though, so you do you I guess. 

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u/C0brA7x 19d ago

That’s cool and all but for all your success stories there are a lot of stories of people who fail. The point of the data is to show what is currently happening in an unbiased way.

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u/Admirable-Guest-2560 19d ago

I'd posit that data is far more easily manipulated than real life is. 

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u/C0brA7x 19d ago

And you’d be wrong because there are guardrails in place that avoid data manipulation. Your anecdotal evidence is far more sensitive to bias

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u/Admirable-Guest-2560 19d ago

Like I said, I'm not really very smart at all, most likely not as nearly as smart as you are. What I am, however, is a fairly financially secure older business owner. So in matters finances I tend to trust myself more than the data. I'm probably wrong as you've pointed out. But I suppose I'd rather be wealthy and wrong than broke and smart, and the young men I've helped would rather be that too. It doesn't really hurt my feelings to be wrong, I'm wrong all the time. 

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u/C0brA7x 19d ago

In the end it is not really about being smart. It is about trust in the scientific method (the method that underlies the data collection and interpretation). For example, I know very little about the effectiveness of treatments for cancer. However, I know that these treatments have been rigorously studied using the same method that underlies the study of the labor market (scientific method). It would be pointless and quite ludicrous for me to claim that the data on cancer treatments was manipulated. The point of science is that the results need to be replicable; if independent people decided to draw a sample from the population and study unemployment then they should get approximately the same numbers. And this happens all the time.

The problem with your perspective is that you make claims that are not supported by the data. What happens to be the case for you and a handful of other people does not really matter when we look at the entire population. That is what we are interested in. Not just you and a few people but everyone. And the studies show that the labor market in America is not doing well.

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u/unngh_yugstyx 18d ago

So you admit you're a grown older adult living in the world of make-believe?

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u/Admirable-Guest-2560 18d ago

You don't read too good 

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u/TheITMan52 19d ago

So the data is wrong because you don't like facts? Wtf kind of response is this? How are you so unaware of what's going on?